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Re: The 1952 Tremonton Utah 'Seagulls'

From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:49:00 EDT
Archived: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:21:04 -0400
Subject: Re: The 1952 Tremonton Utah 'Seagulls'

>From: Michael Tarbell <mtarbell.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 06:40:08 -0600
>Subject: Re: The 1952 Tremonton Utah 'Seagulls' Confirmation?


>A point that still bugs me (I am clueless about film movie
>cameras, so bear with me): The film is described in various
>places (and by Newhouse himself) as 16 mm, shot at 16
>frames/sec. He claims to have shot ~30 ft (9144 mm) of film,
>which would seem to imply (9144/16) or ~572 frames, and an
>elapsed time of 572*(1/16) or ~36 sec. But Baker clearly states
>that the film consists of ~1200 frames with an elapsed time of
>~75 sec, which would seem to correspond to 8 mm frames, not 16
>mm. What is eluding me here?

The 16mm film format only exposes an area about 8 mm high and
about 12-13 mm wide, depending on the exact film type. You are
calculating the length of the film strip in feet from the 16mm
figure but that is the width of the film strip not the length.
 Double your figures.

The CIA got an early copy perhaps before the first portion was
lost. The CIA Office of Scientific Intelligence lists the total
number of frames as about 1,600. That would correspond to 100
seconds (or about 1.7 minutes).

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