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Re: Michael Shermer On 'Larry King Live On UFOs'

From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac.nul>
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:18:10 -0400
Archived: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 08:55:40 -0400
Subject: Re: Michael Shermer On 'Larry King Live On UFOs'

>From: Stuart Miller <stuart.4.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:11:18 +0100
>Subject: Michael Shermer On 'Larry King Live On UFOs'

>From the ESkeptic Newsletter:

>Michael Shermer On Larry King Live On UFOs

>I thought eSkeptic readers might appreciate some of the more
>amusing (and nasty) letters I have received (appended below),
>plus one very revealing letter about Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz
>Aldrin's "UFO sighting" on the way to the moon, recounted by him
>on the show (revealing UFOlogist Stanton Friedman to be an
i>ncompetent researcher).

This is a stupid generalization from one instance of Stan
essentially not being aware of everything that is published to
implying that Stan is generally incompetent, which clearly isn't

>Unfortunately it took Buzz a long time
>to get to the point of the story =97 which was that the UFO turned
>out to be one of the panels from the Apollo rocket booster =97 so
>I fear that it might have been missed by viewers that he was, in
>fact, a UFO skeptic.

There still is an argument over whether or not a panel could
explain the sighting.

>Please note as well that former Arizona governor Fife Symington
>described what he saw during the "Phoenix Lights" event as
>"otherworldly." I spoke at length with Fife before and after the
>show and found him to be a most thoughtful, intelligent, and
>warm individual with no special propensity toward gullibility
>(any more than the rest of us normally express), so after the
>show I asked him, "How do you know what you saw was
>'otherworldly,' when none of us has any experience whatsoever
>with other worlds? Yet we have vast experience with strange and
>unusual secret military aircraft from this world that we find
>out about years later." His response to me in private was
>similar to what he said on the show: it is possible that it was
>some secret military experimental aircraft, but he was so awed
>by what he saw that the military aircraft explanation just
>seemed too unlikely. I noted both on the show and in private
>that in science it's okay to just say "I don't know" and leave
>it at that.

But here is where Shermer falls apart: he talks to a witness and
probably is given a reasonably accurate description of what the
witness saw. But does Shermer try to identify it? No, he's apparently
happy with the "maybe military" handwaving solution and saying
"I don't know." Will he review the most modern aircraft designs
to find out if something approximates what Symington saw?

And also dozens or hundreds of other witnesses?

If it was military it should be provable.

However, silence is not likely consistent with military craft
that might be flying slowly over Phoenix.

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