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Re: Michael Shermer On 'Larry King Live On UFOs'

From: Jason Gammon <BoyintheMachine.nul>
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:23:34 EDT
Archived: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 08:57:54 -0400
Subject: Re: Michael Shermer On 'Larry King Live On UFOs'


>From: Stan Friedman <fsphys.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:45:40 -0300
>Subject: Re: Michael Shermer On 'Larry King Live On UFOs'

>>From: Stuart Miller <stuart.4.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:11:18 +0100
>>Subject: Michael Shermer On 'Larry King Live On UFOs'

>>From the ESkeptic Newsletter:

<snip>

>>The letter about Buzz Aldrin's UFO experience & Stanton
>>Friedman's "research" skills

<snip>

>>Then, at least two years after I had sold well over 20,000
>>copies of the book, I received a phone call at my office from
>>Stanton Friedman. I recognized the name, but couldn't understand
>>what he was calling about. My book was "old news" at this point.

>>Friedman began the conversation by asking me if it was true that
>>I had published a book with the "famous" Apollo 11 UFO sighting.
>>I replied that I had. Friedman then said, "How did you do that?
>>Do you realize how many years my colleagues and I have been
>>trying to get our hands on that document? How did you get NASA
>>to release it to you?" I replied, "I asked them for it."

>>Friedman then asked me if he could get his hands on a copy of my
>>book and I promptly told him that he could buy a copy at any
>>bookstore. He thanked me and hung up.

>>I guess my question is this. If Stanton Friedman has "done the
>>research," (as he boasted he had on Larry King, and upbraiding
>>Michael Shermer for not doing the research), why is it that he
>>couldn't get this report "for years" when it took me only one
>>phone call to acquire this "classified" document from NASA. And
>>after two years in practically every bookstore in the English
>>speaking world, why was Friedman still unaware of its "release"
>>if he is such a tireless researcher?

<snip>

>My recall of the conversation with Godwin is somewhat different.
>But it doesn't matter. I was well aware that Buzz successfully
>sued Berlitz and Moore about the story, in The Roswell Incident,
>of his supposed UFO sighting on the moon... libel.. he was
>selling cars at the time. I had also met him on the Ron Reagan
>Jr. show I had done. Of course I have never used his IFO report
>as evidence for flying saucer reality.

Buzz's inclusion to the panel was pointless. He was apparently
filler, filler that sapped away much needed time.

>Speaking of reality, if one checks Shermer's curriculum vitae
>one finds he has never been a scientist and has never worked as
>a scientist. He is a prolific writer and got his PhD on the
>History of science.

Not only is Shermer not a scientist, he isn't even a skeptic.
He's a debunker, tried and true.

>To suggest he has taken a scientific approach to UFOs is absurd.
>Sort of like saying a sports reporter must be a highly qualified
>athlete. For those interested I should add that the Larry King
>UFO show is to be repeated Saturday, July 21 because of "Popular
>Demand".

Shermer's did nothing but prove his ignorance regarding
sightings. The fact that he had no clue that a structured craft
was witnessed around 8pm during the Phoenix Lights incident,
proves he is not doing his homework. He also seemed ignorant on
the fact that Marcel claimed the wreckage photographed was
switched for mundane weather balloon material.

>I hope to be able to take on Shermer in a debate perhaps on
>George Noory? Or with Larry?

>Stanton Friedman

Speaking of Larry King, I am interested in his opinions on the
subject. Has Larry ever said anything to you, Stanton, or any
other guest off-camera or in the past?


Jason Gammon




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