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Re: The 1952 Tremonton Utah

From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:18:40 EDT
Archived: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:17:35 -0400
Subject: Re: The 1952 Tremonton Utah

>From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:51:50 +0100
>Subject: Re: The 1952 Tremonton Utah 'Seagulls'Confirmation?

>>From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:49:00 EDT
>>Subject: Re: The 1952 Tremonton Utah 'Seagulls' Confirmation?

>>The CIA got an early copy perhaps before the first portion was
>>lost. The CIA Office of Scientific Intelligence lists the total
>>number of frames as about 1,600. That would correspond to 100
>>seconds (or about 1.7 minutes).

>Intriguing. Is "about 1600" just casual CIA auditing or an
>indication that the film was truncated twice? The Navy mentions
>"90 seconds of film" which would be 1440 frames, then the
>recovered copy finally has only 1200 frames running 75 seconds.

>Did the CIA have the original?


Fred Durant of the CIA/OSI Operations Staff told me in the 70's
that CIA (in his group) got the Tremonton film by late August
1952. The only reason CIA was able to get it is because the
President had ordered CIA to investigate the AF's mishandling of
the UFO investigations in the wake of the two weekends in a row
of Washington National UFO incidents.

This gave CIA enough leverage to get access to the film which
was being shown over and over again in the Pentagon without
anyone making a copy. Apparently the CIA's copy was the first
copy made. Ruppelt complained that by the time the Pentagon had
finished with the Tremonton film and it was finally sent to ATIC
it was in bad shape.

Durant still has the CIA copy that was made, evidently before
most of the damage. Durant put the 1,600 frame figure into his
Durant Report to OSI director Chadwell. Efforts have been made
by Jan Aldrich and Tom Tulien to borrow Durant's copy and
duplicate it, and make it available for research. I don't know
if they ran into a snag or what happened. Or maybe there wasn't
enough interest in the UFO research community to go to the
trouble. I would hope the film could go to a scientific lab for
a professional assessment. I would be especially curious to see
the exact frame count.


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