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Re: Why The Cover-Up?

From: Steve Sawyer <stevesaw.nul>
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:47:06 -0700
Archived: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 08:42:16 -0400
Subject: Re: Why The Cover-Up?

>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:00:46 -0500
>Subject: Re: Why The Cover-Up?

>>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:06:09 +0100
>>Subject: Re: Why The Cover-Up?

>>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:51:28 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: Why The Cover-Up?


>>Here's the fatal weakness of your 'argument': who defines what
>>is 'scientific' or 'pseudo-science'?

>>If you say 'authority' or 'established science' then we should
>>still be believing in a geo-centric universe and obeying the
>>mind-control rules of the Inquisition - and Galileo would've
>>been forever silenced.


>One hesitates to comment, for fear of making it sound as if it
>merited more than a horse laugh. I guess, though, that in the
>wacky world of ufology 2007, Ed Gehrman is Galileo.

>One is reminded of Orwell's famous crack about vacuous arguments
>that seek to give an "appearance of solidity to pure wind." On
>the other hand, unlike the creations of clueless ufologists'
>fanciful imaginations, pure wind actually _exists_.

>But if you want to believe Ed Gehrman is the Galileo of our
>time, be my guest. And never you mind all those laughing

Gosh, Jerry, don't hold back. Let us know what you really think!
I have to say your reply, an many others recently to others or
commenting about this or that ufological matter, have been
rather dismissive and abrupt, not to say rather cynical in
nature. I guess when you've been around as long as you have, you
get kind of jaded by the relative newbies.

But, damn it, I thought the above reply was a bit too much,

I could say some things about CUFOS' various intellectual
liabilities, such as their obvious, long-term bias against just
about anything Vallee has had to say for nearly 20 or more
years, as he challenges your and CUFOS bias in favor of the ETH,
which is as questionable as a number of other theories and
speculations in this variegated field, but I think I should
leave my impressions of you and the CUFOS organization at that.

I just think your comments about Ed being the ufological equal
to Galilieo, etc., as both over the top, unnecessary, and a
sadly unresponsive ad hominem form of argumentation and lack of

Just thought you ought to know how you sometimes come across,
and ought to restrain yourself from such insulting commentary in
future, if possible.

I await your reply,

Steve Sawyer

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