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Re: Why The Cover-Up?

From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:36:02 +0000
Archived: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:57:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Why The Cover-Up?

>From: Ed Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:06:05 -0700
>Subject: Re: Why The Cover-Up?

>>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:06:22 +0000
>>Subject: Re: Why The Cover-Up?

>>>From: Steve Sawyer <stevesaw.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:47:06 -0700
>>>Subject: Re: Why The Cover-Up?

>>>I just think your comments about Ed being the ufological equal
>>>to Galilieo, etc., as both over the top, unnecessary, and a
>>>sadly unresponsive ad hominem form of argumentation and lack of

>>What people like Jerry Clark and me are jaded about is the
>>apparent complete ignorance of scientific method constantly
>>diaplayed by numerous people on this list, chief among them the
>>purveyors of the ludicrous notion that all ideas or hypotheses
>>are equally valid and deserving of equal consideration. It is
>>indeed horse-laughable.

>Dick, Steve,

>Thanks, Steve. I don't believe that I support the notion that
>all theories are of equal value. I don't remember saying that

I didn't say you did, Ed. It's your defenders who act that way.

>>The utter necessity of peer review aside, hpothesis or theory
>>construction requiires building a logically coherent and
>>empirically grounded explanation for a body of data. not simply
>>pulling some wild-ass notion out of the sky.

>My theory is supported by science theory (convergent evolution)
>and is logically coherent and very simple to understand:
>Sometime during the last two-hundred million years another
>species of tool makers evolved and populated the earth in enough
>numbers to create the technology that is responsible to the UFO
>seen daily across our planet. We live parallel existences and
>are at the point of possible convergence. All the above is
>possible, scientifically, and historically. It is not some
>"wild-ass notion". It is by far the simplest explanation, and
>makes sense of all the information that ufology has collected
>over the years. All one needs to do is substitute ancient
>monotreme civilization (AMC) for ETH.

And where do we go to see these people, Ed?

>>Take a simple example. Things go wrong in my house (real!);
>>dishes crash to the floor and break; an electric short wipes out
>>an appliance. Now, I can hypothesize that invisible, green, non-
>>corporeal demons are sitting in the corner playing tricks on me.
>>Or I can find much simpler and far more likely explanations. My
>>cat jumped up on the counter and knocked over the dishes. The
>>thermostat on the appliance malfunctioned.
>>These are not only far more likely explanations, but also
>>hypotheses are not really meaningful unless they can be tested.

>What is testable about ETH?

In your very next sentence you say that your theory "can be
tested in the same manner as the ETH," so you must know the
answer to your own question. Briefly, whether or not powered
vehicles are entering or leaving the earth's atmosphere could be
tested (monitored).

>>Cat tracks or fur on the counter, direct inspection of the
>>appliance mechanism, things like that. ETH can be tested in
>>principle, though not easily or inexpensively. So can one or two
>>of the very few alternative hypotheses. Some of the notions
>>advancedon this list are so improbable as to not merit the
>>slightest bit of attention unless and until the advoicates can
>>advance some meaningful supporting evidence.

>The AMC can be tested in the same manner as the ETH. What is so
>improbable about an ancient civilization?

How can it be tested? Where do you look? As small as the earthj
is, another civilization would be pretty hard to find ... unless
of course you are invoking invisibility.

- Dick

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