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Re: Leaked 'Top Secret' UFO Documents Frauds

From: Stan Friedman <fsphys.nul>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:20:51 -0300
Archived: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:37:27 -0400
Subject: Re:  Leaked 'Top Secret' UFO Documents Frauds


>From: Steve Sawyer <stevesaw.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:40:16 -0700
>Subject: Re: Leaked 'Top Secret' UFO Documents Frauds

>>From: David Rudiak <drudiak.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:01:32 -0700
>>Subject: Re: Leaked 'Top Secret' UFO Documents Frauds

>>>Leaked 'Top Secret' Government UFO Documents Proven Frauds

<snip>

>The real question in my mind, even if, alternatively, the MJ-12
>original papers were created by some element of the USG
>military/intelligence complex, for psyop and/or security testing
>of their own personnel to see if they might talk out of turn
>prior to being exposed to genuine classified papers and ops they
>might be being vetted for, is was or is there some actual,
>ongoing, coherent group funded by elements of the USG, even if
>black/covert, that may still be actually involved in ufo/uap
>monitoring, surveillance (of both "ufos" and ufo researchers,
>groups, or "abductees", in some cases, as Nick Redfern
>documented to some extent in his book On the Trail of the
>Saucer Spies/UFOs and Government Surveillance).


>That, to me, is the most interesting unresolved question, on the
>human side of the equation, that persists.



Steve,

I really wish you and others would stop lumping all the MJ-12
papers together. They came from different places to different
people at different times. I agree a whole bunch (Tim Cooper
received) are fraudulent. They have nothing to do with the EBD,
the TF, The Cutler Twining Memo or SOM 1.01. I think these are
genuine for reasons spelled out in Detail in the 2nd Edition of
TOP SECRET/MAJIC. Have you read it?

I know of a rich diamond minewhere the yield is 3.5 carats per
thousand tons of ore. If you have trouble with the Documents I
cite, than please put the criticism on the table instead of
crying fraud because there are so many fraudulent ones. I, too,
am looking forward to Brad's MUFON paper. Heisler has not made
his case as I have noted.


Stan Friedman



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