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Re: Why The Cover-Up?

From: Jason Gamon <BoyintheMachine.nul>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:37:42 EDT
Archived: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:15:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Why The Cover-Up?

>From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:47:24 EDT
>Subject: Re: Why The Cover-Up?

>I wholeheartedly agree with Jerry Clark and Dick Hall and their
>posts on this otherwise tiresome thread. They have been the
>voices of reason and science. Their opponents have cleverly
>obfuscated the issue making it one of protesting their right'
>to 'voice their opinion', as if it's merely a free speech issue.
>Of course they have the freedom of speech to say practically
>anything they want, including that all elephants are pink and
>that monotremes lurk in closets just out of sight.

>But they do not also get the right to call their opinions
>"scientific" just on their say-so, without a shred of evidence,
>without any coherent theoretical development, without any
>respectable scientific literature on their monotreme theory, and
>_act_like_ they should be immune from scientific criticism or
>criticism of its unscientific or pseudoscientific nature or its
>foundation on the so-called Alien Autopsy film widely regarded
>as fraudulent. They do not get a free pass to call it "science."

>That is the real issue. They want to declare their 'opinion'
>that this hidden ancient monotreme civilization is to be
>considered to be scientifically valid, as equally valid as the
>ETH, and they won't stand for any criticism pointing out that it
>is scientific rubbish. Whereas the ETH has a body of scientific
>literature, mainly from hostile SETI scientists, and the
>MonoTreme Hypothesis (MTH) has nothing, no scientific literature
>at all. Yet proponents demand equal time, equal consideration,
>and treatment as equally valid.

>UFO study has not been 'scienced to death', there has been no
>excess of scientific study. As I have pointed out many times
>before the UFO phenomenon has had barely 6 months of full-scale
>scientific study in the past 60 years. Typically scientific
>problems have at least a hundred or so James McDonald-caliber
>scientists devoting 24/7 to the problem, living breathing and
>dreaming it, whether it be cetology, astrophysics, seismology or

>With UFOs it has been almost zero such scientific effort. The
>Condon Project was comprised almost entirely of part- timers,
>most of whom were not McDonald caliber, spending less than two
>years on it. Being generous call that effective full-time
>equivalents of 100 scientists working full-time less than 3
>months on UFOs.

Excellent post Brad. I couldn't agree more. We can't throw baby,
science, out with the bath water just because we are currently
unsatisfied with the ignoring of the phenomena by the

Hopefully this debate will cause people to think twice before
posting, or at least word their thoughts carefully.

The ETH has not been proved, but it is a strong candidate
because it is based on logic. There are a few other 'strong'
theories out there, however, CTH, or the various clever names it
is known by, is currently not among them.

-Jason Gammon

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