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Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists - Redfern

From: Nicholas Redfern <nick_redfern.nul>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 06:46:07 -0700 (PDT)
Fwd Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:51:00 -0400
Subject: Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists - Redfern

>From: Greg Boone <Evolbaby.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 04:29:15 EDT
>Subject: U.S. Spies On Ufologists


>Well here's a dandy!

>I'm glad someone is spying on us. It's good that our guys are
>keeping tabs on things in the name of national security.

>No problem with that at all.

>Wish I'd find me one of them evil foreign spies. I'd try out my
>Spysmasher moves on em'.

>That is the classic Spysmasher movie serial from the 1940's. One
>of the best if not_the_best serial ever.


My 2006 book, On The Trail Of The Saucer Spies (Anomalist Books)
was a full-length study of how and why government, military,
intelligence and police agencies have spied (and still do spy)
on elements of the UFO research community.

During the course of researching the book, I obtained files and
documents on numerous people in US-based Ufology, including Gray
Barker, Albert Bender, George Adamski, George Van Tassel, George
Hunt Willamson, Leonard Stringfield, and many more.

In the UK, I was able to uncover evidence that various people in
the subject had been watched by the British Police Force's
Special Branch, including Matthew Williams, Matthew Bevan and
Robin Cole.

Since publication of my book, Dave Clarke and Andy Roberts have
published, in their latest book The Flying Saucerers, the
official files they obtained via the terms of the British FOIA
from Special Branch on George King of the Aetherius Society.

However, time and again, I found a couple of central themes to
the surveillance: namely that it was undertaken because (a)
intelligence agencies suspected that certain ufologists were
being duped and hired by overseas intelligence agencies into
gathering for them classified defense information of a
specifically non-UFO nature (but while using their UFO research
as a cover); and (b) because it was suspected that some
ufologists were using the UFO subject as a way of subtly
spreading political data of a type that the Intel world had
concerns about.

I found _no_ instance where any ufologist was being watched
because they were getting 'too close to the truth' about literal
ET-driven UFOs. Doesn't mean such official files don't exist;
but they haven't surfaced yet.

Also, Bruce Maccabee wrote a very good review of my book in the
Journal for Scientific Exploration, and confirmed that there was
an FBI file on him - but that it too was related to advances
made to him by the Russians in 1993, and not strictly UFOs or
aliens per se.

The one area where I found evidence of surveillance where the
UFO angle seemed to be the dominating one - rather than Russian
spies and extremist politics - related to alien abduction

I have uncovered a disturbing story of deep official interest in
abductions - but that this interest is not linked with tales of
ET; but is tied in with controversial religious angles,
eschatology, demonology, profiles of abduction researchers and
authors and their influence on mainstream society, and much

Of course, much of this is based upon the pre-existing belief
systems of the people involved in the project - which is
on-going - and the fact that they are employees of Uncle Sam
_may_ be wholly secondary.

But, it's a weird tale that I will be telling in full soon. Just
recently I secured the release of some of the files of this
group of people - which includes material on well-known players
in the abduction arena - and they make for notable reading.

Nick Redfern

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