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Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists - Miller

From: Stuart Miller <stuart.4.nul>
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:21:35 +0100
Fwd Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:37:46 -0400
Subject: Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists - Miller


>>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 12:47:31 +0000
>>Subject: Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists

>>>From: Nicholas Redfern <nick_redfern.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 07:44:07 -0700 (PDT)
>>>Subject: Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists

>>>>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>>Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:14:47 +0200
>>>>Subject: Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists

><snip>

>>>I think the human experiment angle is the answer to Roswell.
>>>But can it be proven via official files etc? Nope, not a chance in
>>>hell. But none of the other theories can either - not even
>>>Mogul. The files are gone, destroyed or hidden. I see no reason
>>>why that situation should ever change.

>>>So, accepting a scenario as real but actually being able to
>>>_prove_ it is real are two separate things.

>>Nick,

>>The fallacy of your reasoning is the premise that all proposed
>>explanations for Roswell are equaly valid and have equal amounts
>>of credible evidence in support of them.

>>Proof in science is an elusive thing, but your argument is like
>>claiming that since you can't prove anything it is equally
>>valid to believe the fossil record or the Bible when it comes to
>>evolution.

>>Or that OJ was innocent, not guilty.

>>Or that UFOs are only a social fantasy construct, not real
>>solid objects.

>>Taking refuge in the 'no proof' argument is a cop-out.


Oh dear; pathos, unintended humour, and a circus act all rolled
into one.

OJ was innocent because the jury found him so. Of course, if you
wish to circumvent the jury system then fine but then you'd have
been hung for heresy years ago.

The fossil record is data. The Bible isn't. There's no contest

And as for UFOs being a social fantasy construct and not real
solid objects, I won't insult you with the answer to that one.

You are the person probably louder than anyone else on this List
Dick that over the years has demanded the involvement of science
in this subject and that the answer lies in the scientific
method etc. Employ it at its most basic; utilising a principle
that has been thrown around on this List like confetti over the
years, namely Occam's razor, and employing it in its most basic
version - all things being equal, the simplest solution tends to
be the best one - then which do you think of the two below is
indeed the simplest solution?

A. The American government have kept the events of Roswell a
secret because they show that the American military were
conducting experiments on live human beings.

B The American government have kept the events of Roswell a
secret because beings not from planet earth crashed in the
desert.


Stuart Miller



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