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Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists - Rudiak

From: David Rudiak <drudiak.nul>
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:44:25 -0700
Fwd Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:10:43 -0400
Subject: Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists - Rudiak


>From: Stuart Miller <stuart.4.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:21:35 +0100
>Subject: Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists

>>>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 12:47:31 +0000
>>>Subject: Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists

>>>>From: Nicholas Redfern <nick_redfern.nul>
>>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>>Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 07:44:07 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>Subject: Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists


>You are the person probably louder than anyone else on this
>List Dick that over the years has demanded the involvement of
>science in this subject and that the answer lies in the scientific
>method etc. Employ it at its most basic; utilising a principle
>that has been thrown around on this List like confetti over the
>years, namely Occam's razor, and employing it in its most basic
>version - all things being equal, the simplest solution tends
>to be the best one - then which do you think of the two below is
>indeed the simplest solution?

>A. The American government have kept the events of Roswell a
>secret because they show that the American military were
>conducting experiments on live human beings.

>B The American government have kept the events of Roswell a
>secret because beings not from planet earth crashed in the
>desert.

Occam's razor is not only the simplist explanation, but _the
simplist explanation that best conforms to the available
evidence._ Big difference. God being all-knowing and making us
out of mud 6000 years ago is a much simpler explanation than
billions of years of evolution, with all its various lines of
evidence involving physics, astrophysics, chemistry,
biochemistry, genetics, comparative anatomy, etc. But Evolution
through natural selection best fits the pile of evidence that's
been accumulated by science over the last two hundred years.
Evolution wins the Occam's razor contest. God's a loser.

In the case of Roswell, option "A" has a couple of shady,
unnamed, self-admitted counterintelligence people telling a
story contradicted by the historical record (e.g., use of
deformed Chinese survivors of Japanese medical experiments
captured by the Americans - total bunk). Also, the "informants"
cannot establish anything that would indicate that would
actually have any knowledge of the events that they claim, i.e.,
being directly involved or having a documented direct
relationship with somebody who would have been involved.
Further, many aspects of the story directly contradict one
another (was it deformed Chinese or Kamikaze Japanese POW
pilots? - God, it is so hard to keep those informants
revelations straight) and the "explanation" does not fit the
reported testimony of the Roswell case, such as highly anomalous
debris.

Option B has witnesses by the scores to strange debris, alien
bodies, and a spacecraft, mostly ordinary people, mostly named,
mostly able to document direct involvement by being at Roswell
in 1947 or related/friends of same. Many of the witnesses were
military people or their families with documented direct
involvement or who we know were there: Marcel, Haut, Shirkey,
Smith, Henderson, Dubose, to name but a few.

Therefore, IMHO, option B wins hands down in the Occam's razor
contest by being the simplist explanation of the two that _best
conforms to the available evidence._


David Rudiak



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