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MUFON On Kinross & F-89 'Find'

From: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 07:45:08 -0500
Fwd Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 07:45:08 -0500
Subject: MUFON On Kinross & F-89 'Find'

Source: BJ Booth's UFO Casebook Site


March 3rd, 2007

Update On The 1953 Kinross UFO Event

James Carrion, MUFON International Director to B J Booth

The recent claim by the 'Great Lakes Dive Company' (GLDC) to
have found the U.S. Air Force F89C Scorpion Jet that disappeared
in 1953 over Lake Superior while in pursuit of a UFO, created
quite a stir of excitement in the UFO community, as reported
last month in the Journal. Unfortunately, based on an in-depth
investigation conducted by MUFON investigators, Great Lakes
Dive's claims cannot be substantiated.

MUFON's investigation began with attempting to answer the basic
questions =96 Is GLDC a valid company? Who are the principals of
the company? What is their corporate history?

Since GLDC claimed to be a Michigan-based corporation, our
inquiry began with a telephone call to the Michigan Division of
Corporations which did not have any record of a company
incorporated under or operating under the name "Great Lakes Dive
Company." When GLDC spokesperson Adam Jimenez was questioned
about this, he said in an email sent on September 19, 2006:

"GLDC is in the process of switching from an incorporated
company to an LLC organization. We began as just a group of
divers who would get together with our sonar equipment and sweep
locations in the great lakes. As it became apparent that we
would need to develop a business entity to interact with
museums, obtain grants etc, we formed a company early on. Once
the group downsized and became more focused with regards to who
was involved, the main group members decided to form GLDC LLC,
to better manage the direction of the company. This entity is
still pending, and not yet available to public records."

However, in an earlier email sent on September 6, 2006 to MUFON
investigator David Watson, Mr. Jimenez contradicted his later
statement by saying:

"Incidentally our company name is Great Lakes Dive Company (not
Inc.) we are technically an LLC. (just for accuracy sake). We
are in the process of putting together a "formal" office, and
will give you the mailing address when available."

Mr. Jimenez also refused to reveal who the principals of the
company were, the company's operating structure, or the types of
marine vessels used in their search, citing recent security
threats made against them. When asked about the nature of these
threats, Mr. Jimenez stated:

"Threats were made regarding the salvage of the object,
essentially =91tell us where it's at or else...' The individuals
represented themselves as producers for the Discovery Channel.
We made a few calls, found out the group was fraudulent and told
them we no longer were interested in any future dealings with
them...that's when the threats started. As a security precaution
we changed all phone numbers associated with GLDC and have not
included any company or personal information (like background
info on the team) on any interviews. Until this situation
(returning to the object) is resolved we will not be providing
any further information on the project or the team."

MUFON later discovered that Mr. Jimenez had provided a cell
phone number to various film makers and researchers, but
switched to a new cell phone number soon after the threats were
made. When MUFON tried to trace either phone number through
Intelius.com, both phone numbers proved to be untraceable.

Since trying to confirm GLDC's corporate identity led to a dead
end, MUFON then attempted to corroborate some of the other
claims made by GLDC.

Mr. Jimenez claimed that GLDC was founded in 2001 for the
purpose of shipwreck exploration and discovery and with the goal
of solving the enduring mysteries of lost vessels in Lake
Superior. In addition to the F89 find, GLDC claimed that they
were searching for the French minesweepers Cerisoles and
Inkermann, and that they were interested in filming in high
definition the wreck of the Gunilda. Mr. Jimenez was quoted in
an August 29, 2006 article in the American Chronicle:

"2006 began as an ambitious project season for us, we were
looking forward to further work at the F-89 site", said Jimenez.
He added, "Then we received some bad news. The Canadian
government refused to allow us to use our ROV at the wreck site
without first providing them the GPS coordinates of the site and
allow either a Coast Guard escort or government official to
accompany the expedition. We were stuck, we don't want to give
up the site (especially because of the object, and it's
potentially huge significance) but we need to stay on the good
side of the Canadians due to our Gunilda project which involves
a lot of other contributors."

MUFON contacted the Ontario Ministry of Culture and spoke with
Mr. Michael Johnson, manager of the ministry's Heritage
Operations Unit, whose office issues work permits for survey or
exploration work in Lake Superior. Mr. Johnson told MUFON that
no one had requested a permit for exploring or surveying the F89
jet or "mystery object," nor had his office received any related
correspondence. Mr. Johnson further revealed that the Ministry
would not require a coast guard vessel or government official to
accompany any expedition, but would allow the licensee to work
under their own cognizance, and that the wreck's GPS coordinates
did not have to be provided up front as long as they were
included in a final survey report.

On Coast to Coast with George Noory, Linda Moulton Howe played
an interview she recorded with Adam Jimenez where he stated that
Canada automatically claims ownership of any wrecks in Canadian
territorial waters. However, Mr. Putt from the office of the
Ontario Receiver of Wrecks told MUFON that the original owner of
the wreck (ship, plane, etc.) maintains ownership and would have
to grant salvage permission--the F89 would therefore still be
considered U.S. Air Force property. Mr. Putt elaborated by
stating that if a wreck's owner is not known, which would
possibly be the case for the "mystery object," then the Ontario
Provincial Government would become the custodian for a year, and
if the original owner could not be found, then the Ontario
Receiver of Wrecks could sell it to the salvor or to the public.

In the same Coast to Coast interview, Linda Moulton Howe stated
that Adam Jimenez graduated in 1990 from Kettering Technical
School (run by General Motors) with a degree in Computer
Engineering. MUFON contacted the registrar's office at Kettering
University (which had changed its name in 1998) and Becky
Ibbotson, registrar assistant, related that no one by the name
of Adam Jimenez had ever attended Kettering.

Giving GLDC the benefit of the doubt, MUFON posted messages to
the public message boards on Scubaboard.com asking if anyone
from the Ontario dive community knew GLDC or of any of the
exploration work they had performed prior to 2006. After
hundreds of viewings, no one could provide any information to
shed light on GLDC's claims.

MUFON also contacted Tom Farnquist, CEO of the Great Lakes
Shipwreck Historical Society, whose organization has been
actively searching for the Cerisoles and Inkermann. Mr.
Farnquist heard of GLDC's F89 claims from a local newspaper
article, but had not heard of any of their other exploration

The Soo Evening News wrote an article on GLDC's claims, and
mistakenly attributed the F89 find to the Great Lakes Diving
Company of Rockford, Michigan. MUFON verified with the Rockford
company owner that his company has no connection with GLDC.

MUFON sent copies of GLDC's F89 side scan sonar images to the
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, and a Woods Hole
scientist, who wishes to remain anonymous, offered his
professional opinion that they do not appear to be side scan
sonar images but photographs that were altered with computer
software to look like side scan sonar images. MUFON also
contacted a professor at Michigan Tech University, who also
wishes to remain anonymous, who stated that although the GLDC
images looked to him like genuine side scan sonar images, they
could have been fabricated by a dedicated person.

When Mr. Jimenez was asked whether a ROV was deployed and how
GLDC was able to confirm that the mystery object was not
radioactive, he responded via email with:

"We did lower the ROV on the initial discovery (because we knew
the risk existed that we may not be able to return to the site).
We haven't been able to use the ROV on the site since (or return
to the site at all for that matter) this season...we had hoped
to use the ROV to further explore the site in 2006. Weather
issues in 2005 prevented us from thoroughly exploring the
wreck(s). The confusion is that the accounts are talking about
two different dive seasons.

We used a DX-1 hand held Geiger counter that was placed into a
sealed chamber within the ROV and the speaker output was patched
into the audio input of the digital camera on the ROV. We had to
get the ROV close to the object to make sure the reading was
accurate...however the efficiency rating of the DX-1 is not
100%, but we were satisfied that it was not radiation causing
our electronic problems. We made the metallic determination
based on visual evidence from the ROV."

Mr. Jimenez's statement alludes to GLDC illegally operating
their ROV in Canadian waters without a properly issued license
and contradicts his previous assertion that "we need to stay on
the good side of the Canadians due to our Gunilda project".

It is not clear as to how the Geiger counter was "patched" to
the audio-input on the ROV's camera, as DX-1 Geiger counters do
not have an audio-out jack, but only an internal speaker.

In a recent Journal of UFO History article on GLDC's claims,
editor Dick Hall writes that:

"In answer to questions from editor, Adam Jimenez of Great Lakes
Dive Company said that they had not yet found any positive
identification such as a serial number" (on the F89).

However, in a September 11, 2006 email to MUFON International
Director James Carrion, Mr. Jimenez contradicted this statement
to Dick Hall by saying:

"The ROV confirmed that the canopy is intact, but we were unable
to see inside due to silt and the translucent nature of the
canopy. One would assume the crew is still inside. Yes the
aircraft tail number is visible on the F-89c...this is how we
were able to confirm that we had found the actual F-89 and not
some other aircraft." MUFON then investigated how and when
GLDC's claims were first made public. The earliest known account
MUFON could find was an Aug. 22, 2006, posting to the UFO
Updates mailing list where a certain "Preston Miller" forwarded
to Francis Ridge what appeared to be a Port Huron, MI,
Associated Press (AP) news article on GLDC's claims.

Francis told MUFON that he does not know who Preston Miller is.
Checking with the Port Huron Times Herald, an authorized AP news
source in Port Huron, managing editor Judith McClean told MUFON
that her newspaper did not originate the article.

MUFON also contacted the Associated Press Michigan Bureau in
Detroit and spoke with Joe Altman. Mr. Altman looked at the UFO
Update article online and said that it was not written in the
characteristic style of an AP press report, as it lacked any
date references. Mr. Altman also searched all AP news feeds and
could not find any information that would indicate AP was the
source for the article.

On September 26, GLDC's web site content at
www.greatlakesdive.com was removed and is no longer available. A
week later, the GLDC message board that was hosted by
excoboard.com was also unavailable.

Performing an Internet Whois query of the greatlakesdive.com
Internet domain name revealed that the domain name registrar is
Melbourne IT Ltd, a company based in Australia. Thinking that
GLDC's claims may be related to the recent Australian UFO wave
videos that were revealed to be a hoax, MUFON contacted the UFO
wave perpetrator, Chris Kentworthy, who denied any involvement
or knowledge of GLDC.

Searching the Internet revealed various security bulletins
warning that some fraudulent web sites use this same Melbourne
IT Ltd registrar and the related myprivateregistration.com

Mr. Jimenez is currently not responding to emails or phone

In summary, MUFON after many hours of investigation by a number
of our dedicated field investigators has not been able to
substantiate any of GLDC's claims. Until GLDC personnel
resurface with more information and definitive proof of the F89
discovery, their claims remain doubtful at this time. MUFON will
continue its investigation and update our readers as further
developments unfold.

James P Carrion
MUFON International Director
in response to B J Booth, webmaster,

[Thanks to 'The Norm' for the lead]

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