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Re: Phoenix Home Videos Reveal Possible Sightings

From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:44:36 -0000
Fwd Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:22:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Phoenix Home Videos Reveal Possible Sightings

>From: Jeff Olson <jlolson.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:56:42 -0600
>Subject: Re: Phoenix Home Videos Reveal Possible Sightings

>>Source: KTVK-3TV - Phoenix, Arizona, USA


>>Friday, March 9, 2007

>>Home Videos Reveal Possible Sightings


>I don't know about the rest of you, but I've no luck viewing
>these videos. The link takes to the place, and it just sits
>there supposedly downloading the videos, but nothing ultimately

>Has anyone else had any luck? Any suggestions?

Works fine for me, Jeff, except that the last two links point to
the same clip. The intended destination of the final link is
easy to find on the site however.

Whilst there is at first sight no apparent motion, which seems
wrong for descending flares, Bruce Maccabee's analysis at


shows very convicingly that there are small downward and lateral
motions, that the almost imperceptible descent would be
explained by slow-descending parachute flares at great distance
and high altitude, that the triangulated distance is indeed  >60
miles, that the lateral motion is consistent with upper wind
direction, that the direction of the lights is towards the AF
range where flares are stated to have been released at unusually
great height that night, that the different turn-off sequences
in the different videos can be explained by the lights
descending behind different horizon features at different times
from the different witness locations and that this is also
consistent with great distance and altitude, that the durations
of the lights are approximately the same as those of the flares
reportedly dropped, etc etc.

I don't see any evidence that these are not flares. I see lots
of evidence that is consistent with flares. Maybe dropping
flares in this way at such altitude is not usual practice, but
unusual practice happens for various reasons. Unless someone can
dispute Bruce's very detailed analysis point by point I think
this should be regarded as a successfully closed case.

Martin Shough

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