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Re: Defending The Indefensible - Boone

From: Greg Boone <Evolbaby.nul>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:02:12 EDT
Fwd Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:42:50 -0400
Subject: Re: Defending The Indefensible - Boone

>From: Robert Gates <RGates8254.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02:01:03 EDT
>Subject: Defending The Indefensible [was: MUFON On Kinross & F-89 'Find']

>>From: Bob Shell <bob.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 08:45:00 -0500
>>Subject: Re: MUFON On Kinross & F-89 'Find'

>>>From: Ed Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:22:52 -0800
>>>Subject: Re: MUFON On Kinross & F-89 'Find'

>>>But I never
>>>realized that any of these issues had ever been declared
>>>"indefensible" and I really don't understand what is meant by
>>>"ear-splitting rhetorical volume". Don't you think he should
>>>provide an example?

>>So far the only "ear-splitting rhetorical volume" that I have
>>heard has emanated from Jerry himself in his attempts to shout
>>us down.

>Bob, Listers

>I probably wouldn't say that certain things are "indefensible"
>because I have heard people go through the motions of defending
>topics that are obviously warmed over bat guano.

>Alien Autopsy is one that got defended for years and years, and
>it turned out to be a hoax/swindle/fraud unloaded by certain
>people and a talented FX guy. Reed/Raith and all that story...
>Many stories from supposed 'intelligence community' insiders
>whispering about this or that. None of which prove out, the
>people don't check out, but that doesn't stop people from
>passing the tales around.

>As for the "ear-splitting rhetorical volume" I would observe
>that we only hear that when somebody is trying to defend some
>questionable story that has less then adequate proof, none the
>less, they don't care about issues of proof because the story
>tickles their ear and they absolutly "believe" the story teller.

>Personally I await the next swindle to come along. I may be
>wrong, but it will probably be in the summer or fall months.
>Somebody will unload some incredible story, which naturally
>can't be verified. The story tellers credentials likely will not
>be able to be verified. The story will go all over UFO talk
>radio and the Internet. Any problems with proof will be blown
>off with the thought that the story was so important that
>personality A, or talk show host B had to unload it without
>checking or investigating anything. Thus the circle of lies and
>decit in ufology is complete.

Hot dang! Robert you sure told the choir what song to sing!

I could go on and on but that would burn up Errol's servers.

Yes, this field of study, ufology, has some of the most
frustrating twists and turns one can endure, but so does
politics, health care, and computer companies with bad service.

Ufology doesn't have the armies of technical personnel that
other fields do. It's not a field where you get major college
credits, federal or state and local subsidizing nor even
corporate support. It's an everyman's field of study because the
powers that be skirt the issue, lie through their teeth and
engage in underhanded means to curtail investigations and

That's why the frauds and charlatans get so much play. We just
don't have the manpower nor resources to tackle this issue. The
big radio programs like C2C and Rense don't do UFO stories 24/7.
They go off into ghosts and chupacabras, ancient Atlantis and
Edgar Cayce. No one is focusing on this subject with the
ferocity and clarity of thought it should. If they had, we'd
have had a resolution or at least some solid ground to stand on
decades ago.

I've said it on this List and on the air over and over again. As
long as there's a mystery, there'll be money to be made on it.
We still have people selling Loch Ness Monster books and such.
We still have people making money off of mysteries that have
defied the ages. UFOs are just one of the latest ones.

The O'Hare incident is a case-in-point. People started sending out
all kinds of so-called photos and videos. Now we come to find
out that not only are the agencies charged with investigating
the incident full of it, we find out the only 'amazing' footage
is going to be on a DVD sometime next year for sale. That just
about killed the O'Hare story for me personally. All things
considered it inevitably ended up in the Circle-of-Loot ( Sung
to the tune of Disney's Lion King "Circle of Life" ).

You'd think with the massive amount of websites nowadays devoted
to ufology and the radio and TV programs that there'd be a team
up of some sort just dogpile on the subject. No. Instead it's
still treated like some sideshow venue and stereotypical
archetypes pervade the pop culture.

It's called Domination through Humiliation, an old trick used
primarily by school yard bullies. Don't win by solid debate, win
by humiliate!

There are no more scams and ripoffs in ufology than there are in
other fields of research and application. Just a glance at the
growing 2008 political campaign will show you that. It's our
species' behavioral pattern to screw up and fast-talk and make a
buck any which way. In ufology because of the lack of safeguards
we depend on one another to out the wolves and weasels.

There's something there to ufology. It says more about our own
make up as beings than about any visitors from the cosmos.
Sometimes you learn more about yourself by studying others. I
too didn't buy that Alien Autopsy for one minute. Man, did I get
chastised for not falling for that one or the one about the
movie Rio Grande. In that one people stated a ufo was seen in a
scene with John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara. Using a high
definition tv set it's easy to see it's just reflections on
wires strung in back of the scene. I got a lot of grief for
bringing that up.

People latch onto things, pump a lot of air into it and don't do
the necessary due diligence.

There's something to ufology. Just the other day the most
shocking event I've ever experienced in all the years of
studying ufos happened. I can't detail it here but I will soon.
I was about to call it all a day in ufology and go on with my
life when I got a disclosure from a group I would never have
expected. Not one disclosure, but two. All I can say is from
that alone, yes we have and are visited by aliens. I didn't say
'space aliens'. There's a difference. I've said it before about
this field, it's a play on words.

I've said before that this field's ultimate conclusions can be
found in what I termed the Sisyphus Effect. Based on the
mythological figure who was doomed to Hades and the only way out
was to roll a boulder to the top of a hill. If he succeeded he
would be released. Instead it was rigged so it would roll off
the hill every time he tried. Sort of like ufology. Things are
always at that horizon, just a stones throw away, just around
that corner.

Always a bridesmaid, never a bride.<G>

That to me explains the entire phenomena. I can walk away from
ufology a satisfied researcher. Along the way I've learned so
much about the sciences and humanities. Learned a lot about
other peoples and their cultures. Have a greater appreciation
for our veterans and law enforcement.

Ufology can be fun if you don't take it too seriously. Whatever
dangers exist within and without I'm sure we'll be able to



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