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Re: Defending The Indefensible - Dickenson

From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:53:45 -0000
Fwd Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:40:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Defending The Indefensible - Dickenson 

Martin Shough and Mike Good are at opposite ends of a see-saw
called 'the popular view of science' - and, for a couple of
reasons, I think Martin is sitting on the complacent, slightly
over-reverential end.

1 - Over-all the science community's attitude could be said to
be in even worse shape than implied by Plank's saying - "The Old
Theories only die out when the Old Professors die out". Most so-
called scientists aren't at the leading-edge and don't even
understand or know about it; they qualified by memorizing the
obsolete laws in text-books.

The mind-sets of even the leading edge boys are dictated
primarily by those text books. Martin Rees - a few decades ago a
rising star and a young Turk of theoretical astro-physics -
 recently confessed he's not confident of anything after Newton.

Yet we know that Newtonian atomism is a delusion: matter is not
made from identical, self-defined and self-sufficient particles,
but 'atomism' remains the fall-back for most physicists - Rees
and later others. Most of science's present generation are still
informed by a false world-view.

2 - Scientists, like most of us, cling to what they think they
"know". Which usually means firm statements about physical
reality. Let's ignore problems above in (1) and agree that
'physics', as its name implies, concentrates on the attributes
of observable matter - about 5% of the stuff of the universe.
Yet for more than a hundred years well informed folk have tried
to point out that matter is not what it seems, and they've been

Wallace, Jeans, Plank and Einstein all expressed their opinions
- or forebodings in Einstein's case - that matter might not
exist as we think it does, constant and reliable. Maybe
Einstein's fears got close to the real future of physics - that
matter is probably a shifting, inconstant and ephemeral
'construct', created and maintained by a presently unknown force
or field.

Refs: Wallace - 'matter is essentially force, and nothing but
force'; Einstein - 'I consider it quite possible that physics
cannot be based on the field concept, i.e., on continuous
structures. In that case, nothing remains of my entire castle in
the air, gravitation theory included, [and of] the rest of
modern physics.'

This is too scary for most physicists and so they've retreated
to denial and repetition of old mantras. Which is why Lee Smolin
says 'we know no more than we did in 1975' and, more recently
'science needs both craftspeople and seers'.

Progress is made by conquering fears of the unknown and this
List catalogues the present battle, which could be the most
important one.


Ray D

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