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Re: Case Studies In Pilot Misperceptions Of UFOs -

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 00:47:35 -0300
Fwd Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 07:24:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Case Studies In Pilot Misperceptions Of UFOs -


>From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 18:29:16 EDT
>Subject: Re: Case Studies In Pilot Misperceptions Of UFOs

>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 13:37:58 -0300
>>Subject: Re: Case Studies In Pilot Misperceptions Of UFOs

>>>UFO UpDates - Toronto wrote:

>>>Source: Peter Smith's Website

>>>http://www.zip.com.au/~psmith/pilot-ufos.html

>>>November 10, 2002

>>>Case Studies In Pilot Misperceptions Of "UFOs"

><snip>

>>>4. The pilots reported seeing "circles, corkscrews, and 90-
>>>degree turns" but the actual rocket did no such maneuvers.

>>Ergo it wasn't the rocket.

>If you'll look closely the "90-degree turn" only comes from the
>sensationalist National Enquirer article and not from any other
>source and was probably completely fabricated. Once you
>eliminate that crap then it does fit a space decay or re-entry,
>and there is no pilot "misperception" of sighting details such
>as time, location, appearance, etc., only pilot
>misinterpretation of the ultimate cause.

>Pilots like other UFO witnesses cannot be treated like they are
>PhD scientist investigators of their own UFO sightings, hence
>their off-the-cuff _opinions_ as to what it was they saw are not
>at the same level of reliability as their observational details,
>and cannot be expected to be.

>If quoted by the media shortly after landing pilots cannot
>possibly have spent weeks investigating the cause of their
>sighting as they've only had a few minutes. And again not being
>PhD scientists nor having years of UFO investigative experience
>they can't be expected to come up with the right explanation
>instantly.

>Several years ago I did a study of witness observational
>accuracy using IFO data buried in the Condon Report which the CU
>Project deliberately refused to analyze even though it had been
>a project goal. They apparently discovered as I did that using
>IFO's where we know what it was a witness saw and how far away,
>etc., that witnesses turned out to be an astonishingly high 97%
>to 98% accurate. Astonishing only because of the widespread
>debunking propaganda that devalues eyewitness data as worthless.

>What was _not_ highly accurate were the witness interpretations
>of their own sightings.

>The Hynek study that supposedly found that pilots had the
>highest rate of IFO's in the Blue Book files is completely
>undocumented and unsubstantiated. It appears on one page of The
>Hynek UFO Report and there is no source data on how many reports
>were categorized, the criteria used, etc., and it appears the
>methodology was utterly confused between "misperception" and
>"misidentification," which are two different things. Given that
>kind of fundamental confusion it is unclear whether the Blue
>Book "IFO's" that were used were the actual "Known" IFO's and
>not the "Possible" and "Probable" categories, to give one
>example of deeply flawed methodology.

>"Misperception" involves errors in the observational details and
>my study shows there are very few of those in any category of
>witness occupation. "Misdentification" involves erroneous
>witness opinion of the ultimate cause of the sighting, which are
>subject to great error because it is asking essentially for a
>conclusion that only a PhD scientist investigation could
>properly render and no such thing is available to the witness.
>Yet if the witness gets that wrong he or she is slandered from
>here to eternity.

I can't argue with any of this Brad. Well put.

It has always bugged me how badly the witnesses get treated
regardless what their background and expertize. It's a wonder
they still come forward, but often are compelled to when _they_
need to know.


Don


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