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Re: ESA Admits Doubts About Their Mars Face Model

From: Paul Scott Anderson <paulscottanderson.nul>
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 11:48:25 -0700
Fwd Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 08:21:59 -0400
Subject: Re: ESA Admits Doubts About Their Mars Face Model

>From: Lan Fleming <lfleming6.nul>
>To: UFOUpdates <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:53:17 -0500
>Subject: Re: ESA Admits Doubts About Their Mars Face Model

>The resolution of this new camera is down to a few centimeters
>from several hundred kilometers above the planet surface. The
>technology is remarkable, but I never was overly excited about
>the prospect of another Face image at this very high resolution.
>I figured that it most likely just show more natural terrain at
>a finer scale. The landform is obviously composed of native
>rock, as I and other people surmised before the first high-res
>image was taken by the Mars Global Surveyor back in 1998. There
>are only two alternative explanations for the appearance of the
>Face: it's either a natural landform eroded for not fully-
>explained reasons into an unusually symmetrical shape, or it's
>an artificially sculpted landform whose finer details have been
>eroded away. Erosion of artificial stone structures tends to
>begin at the smallest scale and progressively obliterates
>larger-scale features. I've seen close-ups of unrepaired
>surfaces of the Great Sphinx that looklike perfectly natural
>cliff faces covered with gullies and no hint of alteration by
>human hands. That being said, with regard to artificiality, I
>think the rule should be that the landform is presumed "innocent
>until proven guilty." The high resolution images have fallen far
>short of proof.

Agreed. I think too many of the debunker types were assuming
that this (if real) would have been 'built' rather than carved
from an already existing mesa. And now since the surface looks
so natural close-up, they can happily dismiss it for good.

Hoagland still seems to assume that also, although I don't know
why. I haven't seen any sign of his "girders" yet... I did hear
him on C to C a few days ago saying that he has (of course)
found some "amazing things" in the new MRO image... we'll see...

>I agree, although I suspect the results will more likely than
>not be the same as with the Face. In the short run, the question
>of primitive mircrobial life on or near the surface of Mars
>seems more likley to be resolved. There do seem to be some
>indications of it, including the results of the Labeled Release
>experiments on the old Viking Landers which were dismissed too
>hastily, in my opinion because scientists didn't know at the
>time how stubbornly simpler life forms can hang on in extremely
>hostile environments.




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