UFO UpDates
A mailing list for the study of UFO-related phenomena
'Its All Here In Black & White'
Location: UFOUpDatesList.Com > 2007 > May > May 17

Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions - Gehrman

From: Ed Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 14:11:04 -0700
Fwd Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 08:04:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions - Gehrman

>From: Neil Morris <neil.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 10:58:41 +0100
>Subject: Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions

>>From: David Rudiak <drudiak.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 11:09:40 -0700
>>Subject: Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions

>>mysterious crate to Fort Worth had a flight time of 1 hour 55
>>minutes). Then Marcel had to get from the B-29 to Ramey's
>>office. (Robert Porter on the plane with Marcel said a guard was
>>posted before they were allowed to leave.) Ramey wasn't in his
>>office at first, said Marcel. When Ramey returned he showed
>>Ramey some of the samples (laying them out on Ramey's desk, not
>>the floor), then he and Ramey went to the map room before
>>returning to Ramey's office. That's when the balloon switch
>>occurred. The photos were taken afterwards. Thus we are talking
>>probably around 2-1/2 hours to the photo session from Marcel's
>>departure time from Roswell. If Shirkey was right about the
>>time, the photos would likely have been taken around 5:30. Even
>>if we push back Shirkey's time an hour, it would have been 4:30,
>>or at least at hour after Johnson's imaginary pre-Roswell story
>>photo shoot.

>Please note that from our investigation into the complexities of
>the adoption of Daylight Saving time in the US, back in the 40's
>we also discovered that the US military _adopted_ and used DST
>_whatever_ the use of DST was in the local area. This of course
>could now totally confuse and muddy the timeline waters, _which_
>times are actually being reported?. Military times will be DST
>but civilian times reported will _not_ as NM and TX did not use
>DST but the bases there would have.


You mention Master Sergeant Robert Porter but fail to include
his most important testimony. First, he's the only person, out
of all the Roswell witnesses who describes the packages we can
see on Ramey's office floor: Porter swore he loaded the B-29
with "the material wrapped in packages with wrapping paper...
triangle shaped, about 2 1/2 feet across the bottom. The rest
were in small packages about the size of a shoe box. The brown
paper was held with tape... extremely light weight... like
picking up an empty package... could have fit into the trunk of
a car."

I agree he made sure that a guard was posted, after which, "he
could eat lunch" and then mentions coming back from lunch. He
didn't describe it as breakfast or dinner or supper, but lunch.
Lunch in the Army doesn't usually happen later than two o'clock.
So if Porter went to and came back from "lunch" then it was much
earlier that 4:30 or 5:00 PM. when they arrived in FW.


Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast



[ Next Message | This Day's Messages ]
This Month's Index |

UFO UpDates Main Index

UFO UpDates - Toronto - Operated by Errol Bruce-Knapp

Archive programming by Glenn Campbell at Glenn-Campbell.com