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Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions - Randle

From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993.nul>
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 11:31:59 EDT
Fwd Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 08:58:49 -0400
Subject: Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions - Randle

>From: Greg Boone <Evolbaby.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 10:23:57 EDT
>Subject: Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions

>>From: David Rudiak <drudiak.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 11:04:43 -0700
>>Subject: Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions

>>>From: Ed Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 13:23:34 -0700
>>>Subject: Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions


>Now that it's gone into Rev. Dr. Johnson's photos I do have an
>account of what the late sir told me via email several years
>ago. At first I hadn't realized that I had already known Rev.
>Dr. Johnson until I was doing work with the City of Los Angeles
>if I recall and he was on one of the boards like the chamber of
>commerce or something. It was by sheer boo boo we made a
>connection. He was Methodist and my kin knew his kin. So being
>respectful when I contacted him about a commerce matter I
>mentioned to him I worked for the then Parascope Magazine on
>AOL. That led to Roswell and he told me who he was.

>Land O' Goshen!

>We got to jawin' a might and he told me then that the debris in
>Ramey's office was a combination of debris. Some from the crash
>and some the bogus RAWIN stuff. At the time I thought it was
>already known of the combination of material. He told me that
>the stuff had been so rapidly dumped out so that he could take
>pics he nor the others didn't know what was what. I also recall
>him telling me that Dubose then rushed in and was worried about
>something and rushed he, Johnson, out of Ramey's office or he
>said that Ramey got upset and had Dubose rush him out of the

>Anyway, now that I see there's a debate about it, I'll go dig
>through the emails and find the data for clarification.
>Hope that helps.

Good Morning Greg, List, All -

Not really. All it does is provide another version of what
happened in Ramey's office. In the first version, the one he
gave to me, he arrived, the stuff was on the floor and he took
the pictures. At first he claimed two, then four, and finally
six. He said that the stuff smelled and that Ramey told him it
was a weather balloon. He said he returned to the newspaper,
developed his pictures and then wrote the story that appeared in
the newspaper the next day. In the interviews with me, he said a
number of times that he wrote the story.

Later he said that Ramey didn't know what it was when he got
there and that he didn't write the story. He said he was in
Ramey's office, saw the wrapped packages and unwrapped them.
When I asked if he rifled the desk as well, he said that he and
DuBose were in Ramey's office and they unwrapped the packages.
Now we have a different version, one that allows for some
"real" debris to be mixed in with the balloon and target.

So, no, this doesn't help, other than supply a different version
to the already confused record. I think we can say, safely, that
Johnson was out there and he took pictures. I believe that he
took six, but others with some rather flakey analysis, seem to
believe he took only four... so now we need a third cameraman to
take two pictures of Marcel... not to mention the guy who took
the picture of Newton. I think we can safely say that the debris
in all the pictures is the same, though the angles of the
photographs change and some of the debris is moved around as
people handled it.

Johnson's legacy is a confusion about what he saw and did
because he offered so many versions of it. When we reduce this
to the known facts as opposed to the speculations, we have
Johnson photographing a balloon and target with the cover story
already in place. We have no "real" debris in those pictures
and an explanation handed out to the press as quickly as


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