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Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions - Morris

From: Neil Morris <neil.nul>
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 17:40:46 +0100
Fwd Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 09:08:19 -0400
Subject: Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions - Morris


>From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 10:12:12 EDT
>Subject: Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions

>>From: Neil Morris <neil.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 10:58:41 +0100
>>Subject: Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions

>Neil, List All -

>Just for fun, let's all go around again. First, there would be
>no reason to send Johnson out to the base if there was no news
>story. This simply defies logic.

Kevin,

This point as I recall was put to Bond on several occasions to
which he responded that the "story" itself was _not_ expected to
_break_ in Fort Worth itself but elsewhere ie, Roswell or
 infact Washington. He was just tasked with getting the pictures
and we know from our other reporter he _did_not_ gather any news
info while he was out there. Using your own argument _if_ the
story _had_ broken at that time why _didn't_ he gather any
copy?, yet we know he didn't because our ST journalist told us
who did write all the ST's "disc" stories later that evening.

Doesn't this infact indicate that the information to hand at
that time at the ST was _extreamly_ fragmentory, as Bond said
they were waiting for the main story to arrive and expected it
to come in from elsewhere. You also have to put youself into the
1947 mindset too, journalists were not thick on the ground and
relied heavily on news feeds from the wireservices, they were
also by all accounts not quite the rabit pack hounds in chase of
a story that we seem to have today.

Our timing of Bond in Ramey's office at 3.15pm'ish indicates he
must have been leaving the ST office around 2.30'ish. 2.30pm FW
time preceeds the 1st national AP wire release at 3.26pm FW time
by almost an hour. There was certainly no national "story" out
there at that time, there _could_ have been early "wire chatter"
on the newswires similar to what we see in the UP wires from
Roswell and this could have prompted an early call to Ramey's
office to clarify things and which in turn prompted Bond's trip
out to the base.

>Two, Johnson said that he wrote the news story because there was
>no one else to write it. He claimed that seven or eight times
>over two interviews until I told him that his new claims made no
>sense based on last paragraph of the news story... then suddenly
>he didn't know who wrote it.

As I said in an earlier post Bond made some _wrong_ assumptions,
he usually _did_ write the copy for his picture stories. But we
know from an independant witness in the ST newsroom who was
there _after_ Bond left that the night's "disc story" copy was
handled by the city desk editor.

Bond simply assumed it was just like any one of the many other
stories he _did_ write.

>Three, if Johnson took the pictures and was out in Ramey's
>office alone, why didn't he make notes for the news story even
>if he didn't write it. You've got a reporter in place and then
>he doesn't do basic journalism. This simply defies logic...
>though it does mean you can now claim that Johnson photographed
>some of the real debris.

Because he was tasked as a photographer and told to take the
pictures, _not_ write up a story, it (the story details) were
expected to come in over the wire from Roswell or elsewhere.
After all the guys at Fort Worth hadn't been the ones who
discovered or recovered the "disc" those guys out at Roswell had
done that, wouldn't they be the ones with all the details?.

>What this really boils down to is Johnson making multiple
>claims. It boils down to a news story in the newspaper that said
>plainly that Ramey told him it was a balloon. It boils down to a
>time-line that is not based on sun angles and speculation about
>daylight savings time or standard time, but on documented fact.

>It is clear that Johnson went out there. He took the six
>photographs he claimed. He took notes about what Ramey said and
>he returned to the newspaper and developed his film and wrote
>his story. He knew when he went out that it had to do with
>flying saucers and he was told immediately that it had been a
>weather balloon.

Kevin, you can take away Bond's testimony completely should you
wish.

The analysis of the photo's _does_not_ depend on it. They stand
on evidence gathered from within the photo's themselves.

What would you rather have as evidence?, 60 year old memories
acknowleged as being _fragmentory_ or physical evidence within a
proven historical photograph that can tell you exactly(+-10mins)
when that photograph was taken? As an Intelligence Officer do
you not see the worth of this? Memories fade, memories can be
mistaken and assumptions wrongly made from them. But those 4
negatives are a little bit of _living_ history frozen at the
moment they were taken and hold far more real historical detail
than any memory could ever recall after 60 years.


Neil




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