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Re: Larry King Live UFOs Now Friday Night

From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:22:03 -0000
Archived: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:30:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Larry King Live UFOs Now Friday Night

>From: Steven Kaeser <steve.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>,
>Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:34:11 -0500
>Subject: Re: Larry King Live UFOs Now Friday Night

>>From: Greg Boone <evolbaby.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:14:31 -0800
>>Subject: Re: Larry King Live UFOs Now Friday Night


>>I'm only asking because of conflicting statements or lack of
>>documentation of the data.

>>Case in point, the story where Symington says he was looking for
>>the lights at the same time he saw the giant delta wing craft.

>>If the lights took place much later than when he saw the craft
>>how could he be looking for something that hadn't happened yet?

>>This case has a Roswellian sort of timeline fragmentation to it
>>and is a bit too confusing for us.

>I haven't heard Symington say anything about going out to look
>at the lights.


Symington says it here:


"It was truly breathtaking," Symington told CNN on Friday. "I
was absolutely stunned because I was turning to the west looking
for the distant Phoenix Lights."

Greg is right, and I also questioned this. But Symington is
relying on a 10-year-old memory and has obviously absorbed a
great deal of 2nd-hand info and imagery over the years. It
wouldn't be too surprising if events had got telescoped together
in his mind. This doesn't necessarily mean that the core memory
of the sighting is without value.

>He acknowledged that he saw a large object floating silently

Not sure about "overhead". Did he say this? As I mentioned in a
later post the sighting direction indicated appears to be SE,
which is grossly inconsistent with the flare drop (SW of
Phoenix). In fact "turning to the west" is consistent with
Symington's statement elsewhere that he saw the triangle fly
over Squaw Peak. Squaw Peak, as far as I can make out, would be
a few miles due West from Symington's location in Glendale. He
said the object appearred to be heading about SSE, so we get the
picture now of something in the W sky tracking from left to
right. Again this a 10-year-old memory, but these are the sort
of basic structural facts that are probably most reliable. If
Bruce is right that Symington would not have had a view towards
the SW ranges from his location anyway then everything is
consistent with him seeing something other than the 10:00PM

>and I believe there is evidence that his sighting was
>earlier than the later sighting of lights that became prominent
>in the media.

Can you tell us what this evidence is?

>There is perhaps a question of the time, since Arizona doesn't
>participate in "Daylight Savings Time", but I believe that Bruce
>has taken that into account in his analysis. But I can see where
>some might get the time wrong and serious confusion could result.

I raised the DST issue in good faith, but I no longer think it
important. Bruce has reassured me that the bulk of significant
~8:30 reports were made within one or two days. And in any case
we can probably put that whole issue to rest because I've been
informed off-List that the change to DST in those days was in
April. It's apparently only in the last year that it changed to
mid-March? US listers will know more about this than I do.

Martin Shough

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