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Re: Witnesses & Their Senses

From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:18:05 -0600
Archived: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:31:36 -0500
Subject: Re: Witnesses & Their Senses

>From: Richard Hall <dh12.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:27:54 -0500
>Subject: Re: Witnesses & Their Senses

>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:23:53 -0600
>>Subject: Re: Larry King Live: Friday, November 9th, 2007

>>>From: Richard Hall <dh12.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:22:15 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: Larry King Live: Friday, November 9th, 2007

Hi, Dick,

>But we could get into an infinite regression of definitions
>here. What does "anomalous" mean? Clearly in the case of honest
>witnesses what they saw was anomalous to them (unfamiliar in
>their experience or knowledge). Just like the definition of UFO
>we need to distinguish what a `real' anomaly is by introducing
>the concept of labeling only after careful and thorough

>Something ought not to be labeled an anomaly merely on the basis
>of being unfamiliar to a casual observer, otherwise we have
>utter chaos and confusion.

Anomalous is broadly definable as "outside current consensus
knowledge" and doesn't mean, of course, simply an individual's
failure to identify a conventional stimulus.

All I was saying, to make myself clearer than apparently I did,
is this, not (I should think) terribly controversial

Of course people can be fooled. That's beyond any possible
dispute. I was just raising a warning flag about the presumption
that they are routinely and easily fooled. That, I believe, is a
whole other question, and surely the reason we get
"conventional" explanations that are so wildly at variance with
witness testimony and offered with no other justification than
the just-stated.

It certainly ought to be useful to proponents, skeptics, and
agnostics alike to attain more precise clarity on how people are
fooled and how they are not fooled.

Jerry Clark

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