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Re: UFOs Photographed Near Site Of Argentine

From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:10:20 -0500
Archived: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:06:15 -0500
Subject: Re: UFOs Photographed Near Site Of Argentine

>From: Brian Ally <ufoupdates.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:30:21 -0500
>Subject: Re: UFOs Photographed Near Site Of Argentine Police Incident

>>From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:52:39 -0500
>>Subject: Re: UFOs Photographed Near Site Of Argentine Police

>>I think the probability is higher that the object is a UFO. In
>>the uncropped photo, one can see that the object is over the
>>ring of a toroidal shape extending from the object to the cloud
>>beneath. You can enhance the torus slightly using MS
>>PhotoEditor. Zoom the picture to 200, and open the Image/Balance
>>dialog. Set Brightness to 50, Contrast to 76, and Gamma to .46.
>>I also see a small torus (halo) about the size of the object
>>itself just over the peak of the object.

>>In a recent post I presented evidence that the torus is a
>>on many photos of UFOs over the years. See:


>>The positions of these particular tori relative to the UFO is

>>If you have trouble seeing the torus, sometimes a hand magnifier
>>helps. Also, use a display with sufficiently high resolution
>>(e.g., 1600x1200, 32 b/p). I suspect that too low a resolution
>>spreads the features out so the object may be harder to

>The problem with your methodology is that you're working with
>tiny, 72DPI images that have been severely compromised by JPEG
>compression. One is likely to find all sorts of artifacts.

The small torus just over the peak of the object could be a JPEG
artifact. However, the larger torus extending to the cloud below
probably is not. The unit in baseline JPEG compression is a
small 8x8 block that can more or less accurately represent the
original content. A number of inaccurately coded blocks together
can create a contiguous larger artifact, especially along
contours in the original image. But I see no reason why
artifacts should align to create a relatively large geometric
object like a torus. These I have seen in many photographs of

It is possible that there is something about the way cameras
work that cause the tori to be added to the images. Many of the
examples I've seen were originally film photographs, so whatever
it is seems to apply to both analog and digital photos. It would
be nice to see if tori can be discerned in a few of the original
negatives. An uncompressed version of a UFO picture taken by a
digital camera would also be helpful.

In the meantime, I work with what I have. Because of the
consistent relationship between torus and UFO in multiple
photographs, I lean toward the tori being "out there" with the
UFOs. If true, that's important for us to know.


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