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Re: Pilots & UAP

From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:21:11 +0000
Archived: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:35:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Pilots & UAP

>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:22:20 -0400
>Subject: Re: Pilots & UAP

>>From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:34:11 +0000
>>Subject: Re: Pilots & UAP


>To butt in, right off the top of my head, the Ken Arnold
>sighting. There are plenty more as you work your way forward 59

Sorry Don, but to my knowledge, there is nothing in the Arnold
case to compare the witness estimates with in order to establish
how accurate or otherwise they were?

>Singular moving lights at night are not fair game, Joe. There is
>a big difference between a re-entering satellite and a daylight
>UFO. I suppose you would have the pilot take the hit rather than
>act on instinct in that case though. If he thought it was threat
>what would you have him do? No on is claiming lights in the sky
>at night without reference points can be readily identified,
>particularly ones that are moving.

Okay, where does one draw the line?

>As for Bowyers, it was disturbing enough for him to remark that
>he was glad to get his airplane back on the ground. The numbers
>still work out at about 600 feet in length, possibly longer.

I'm not sure what the final report will say, but there was
certainly a significant margin of error in the initial report. I
don't think anyone would like sharing airspace with something
large and unknown, no matter what it was.

>You should make a effort to check into more pilot sightings
>before you make the same leap as Ian Ridpath re that case. he
>tried to apply that to the Manchester encounter.A British
>Airways passenger jet had a close encounter with an unidentified
>flying object while landing at Manchester Airport in January
>1995. "The Boeing 737, flight BA5061, with 60 people on board,
>was overtaken at high speed by a wedge-shaped craft as the plane
>descended through 4,000ft on the final stages of a journey from
>Milan." His contention was it was a meteor 60 or 80 miles up and
>away when in fact the visibility was 6 miles in cloud-another
>aviation fact he couldn't understand.

You should take that up with Ian.

>Anyway, never mind lights in the sky, stick with the tough ones.
>Start with the 3,500 odd cases Dick Haines has at NARCAP.

I don't have the time to sift through 3,500 cases to find any
which contain detail which can be compared to the pilot's
estimates, not that I wouldn't like to.



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