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Re: Pilots & UAP

From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:21:11 +0000
Archived: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:35:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Pilots & UAP


>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:22:20 -0400
>Subject: Re: Pilots & UAP

>>From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:34:11 +0000
>>Subject: Re: Pilots & UAP

<snip>

>To butt in, right off the top of my head, the Ken Arnold
>sighting. There are plenty more as you work your way forward 59
>years.

Sorry Don, but to my knowledge, there is nothing in the Arnold
case to compare the witness estimates with in order to establish
how accurate or otherwise they were?

>Singular moving lights at night are not fair game, Joe. There is
>a big difference between a re-entering satellite and a daylight
>UFO. I suppose you would have the pilot take the hit rather than
>act on instinct in that case though. If he thought it was threat
>what would you have him do? No on is claiming lights in the sky
>at night without reference points can be readily identified,
>particularly ones that are moving.

Okay, where does one draw the line?

>As for Bowyers, it was disturbing enough for him to remark that
>he was glad to get his airplane back on the ground. The numbers
>still work out at about 600 feet in length, possibly longer.

I'm not sure what the final report will say, but there was
certainly a significant margin of error in the initial report. I
don't think anyone would like sharing airspace with something
large and unknown, no matter what it was.

>You should make a effort to check into more pilot sightings
>before you make the same leap as Ian Ridpath re that case. he
>tried to apply that to the Manchester encounter.A British
>Airways passenger jet had a close encounter with an unidentified
>flying object while landing at Manchester Airport in January
>1995. "The Boeing 737, flight BA5061, with 60 people on board,
>was overtaken at high speed by a wedge-shaped craft as the plane
>descended through 4,000ft on the final stages of a journey from
>Milan." His contention was it was a meteor 60 or 80 miles up and
>away when in fact the visibility was 6 miles in cloud-another
>aviation fact he couldn't understand.

You should take that up with Ian.

>Anyway, never mind lights in the sky, stick with the tough ones.
>Start with the 3,500 odd cases Dick Haines has at NARCAP.

I don't have the time to sift through 3,500 cases to find any
which contain detail which can be compared to the pilot's
estimates, not that I wouldn't like to.


Cheers,

Joe



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