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Re: 'Unidentified'

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:57:25 -0400
Archived: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:40:45 -0500
Subject: Re: 'Unidentified'


>From: Vincent Boudreau <vincentboudreau.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:31:09 -0500 (EST)
>Subject: Re: Pilots & UAP

>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:38:14 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Pilots & UAP

>>>From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:22:39 +0000
>>>Subject: Re: Pilots & UAP

>><snip>

>>An unknown craft is a UFO. UFO for those who keep forgetting
>>means unidentified flying object - not alien space craft.

>><snip>

>Does it ever start to be identifiable as a constructed object
>not from this Earth?

>With all due respect, this notion of "unidentified" seems to be
>the new spin, a la mode du jour, hinting that the witnesses
>_failed_ in some way.

>Jimmy Carter is not the only one to lately put the spin on his
>testimony. His sighting leaves room to doubt, but his use of the
>word "unidentified" muddies the water. His answer has been
>reprised by a few columnists, some claiming they once saw
>something, couldn't figure out what is was and now use the
>expression "it was unidentified".

>I can understand that many observations are the result of bad
>perception or unsufficient data. For that matter, we talk of
>only 5% of true unknowns. Brad Sparks even mentions about 30%!

>I think it should be stated that, at some point, the _true_
>unknowns are not unidentified. They should be considered as some
>alien manifestation, meaning not fabricated by mankind as we
>know it.

>The term 'alien' itself is the object of a debate. They might be
>interdimensional, extraterrestrial, time travelers, whatever.

>As much as there is danger! of classifying all strange
>observations and unknowns as UFOs, the re is a danger in
>classifying all UFOs as unidentified, especially when the label
>infers something was amiss.

>"Unidentified" is some kind of negative assessment.

>James Penniston saw and touched something in Rendlesham Forest.
>_Unidentified_ does not apply to it.

>It was alien wasn't it? So were the Iranian and Peruvian
>incidents?

>If the word "alien" is too much for some people, how about
>"artificial but not manmade"?

>It is also a negative assessment, but it is more convenient and
>more exact than "unidentified".


Hi Vincent,

You make a good point. The letters UFO have been used as a
convenient moniker on which to hang various and sundry reports of
anomalies in the sky-and on the ground- for some 50 years. It has
also become a term used to denote a craft of extraterrestrial
origin and a term with connotations approaching some religious
rite-"Do you believe in UFOs?"

Often we hear that something anomalous in the sky was deemed to
be a UFO as if that solved the problem which of course it does
not. It simply confuses the issue by stating that something was
identified as being unidentified.

When does a UFO become something other than a UFO? What's another
name for it? Would it be a craft of unknown origin, a phenomenon
as yet unexplained or a misinterpretation of the prosaic. Add
your own here.

For convenience sake I use phenomenon when there is no other
explanation that fits, but that's really not effective enough.
Attempts have been made to come up with an appropriate name for
these unidentifieds-NARCAP uses UAP-but UFO seems to stick as the
preferred "handle" by the media and many researchers.

Since I personally don't believe that many reports [again I don't
buy the 3-5% unsolved figure] and even some personal encounters
are explainable by any country's capability to produce them and
that for the most part are some-as yet-unknown natural phenomenon
[a cop-out in my estimation] then they are intelligently
controlled craft of extraterrestrial origins. I've long since
given up sitting on the fence in this regard. Perhaps this
qualifies me for a tinfoil hat award but I've grown tired of the
absurd explanations offered up over the years to explain the
phenomenon away, some of which are more unbelievable than the
reported phenomenon itself.

Don Ledger




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