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Re: Answering Public Questions On UFOs & Aliens

From: Stuart Miller <stuart.4.nul>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:23:24 +0000
Archived: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:25:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Answering Public Questions On UFOs & Aliens


>From: Lan Fleming <lfleming5.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>,
>Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:50:16 -0600
>Subject: Re: Answering Public Questions On UFOs & Aliens

>>From: Stuart Miller <stuart.4.nul>
>>Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:35:58 +0000
>>Archived: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:02:05 -0500
>>Subject: Re: Answering Public Questions On UFOs & Aliens

>>>Source: The Skeptics Society - Altadena, California, USA

>>>http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/07-11-14.html#feature

>>>Wednesday, November 14th, 2007

>>>With all the buzz this week about UFOs and the call for an
>>>investigation into what the government is hiding from us about
>>>extraterrestrial aliens, we thought we would ask a NASA official
>>>in charge of dealing with the public about such matters, and
>>>that is NASA scientist David Morrison. Read on for how Dr.
>>>Morrison handles such queries as "where are you hiding the alien
>>>bodies?" and other such matters.

>>I think the responses to this have been a bit off kilter. It is
>>certainly true that there is scientific dishonesty and a degree
>>of waywardness about the article content but no more so than for
>>example in this from the List yesterday;

>>John F. Kennedy knew of extraterrestrials and wrote a memo to
>>CIA to release information just 12 days before his assassination
>>http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/540748

>>Is it alright for Ufologists to spout bunkum but not others or
>>is it that somehow we have implied licence but expect more from
>>scientists?

>Stuart,

>I couldn't find the original UpDates message where this Kennedy
>article was cited, but it seems to have had something to do with
>the MJ-12 documents and the claim that Kennedy was assassinated
>because he was going to go public with what he supposedly knew
>about UFOs. The MJ-12 documents have been hotly debated
>frequently on the List here. Other UFO claims are too silly and
>too lacking in evidence to comment on and so quite justifiably,
>nobody wastes their time debating them. I certainly wouldn't
>bother arguing about whether Kennedy "knew too much" and had to
>be silenced.

>This seems a bit different situation than the almost total lack
>of skepticism among self-styled skeptics regarding dubious
>assertions that fit their beliefs, such as those made by
>Morrison. And Morrison is a revered NASA scientist who gets paid
>to "enlighten" the public, not just some guy with a web page. It
>seems to me that he should be held to a higher standard than
>free-lance JFK conspiracy theorists.

>Everybody probably has a tendency to be less critical of claims
>that support their own beliefs, but some of us at least try to
>fight this human failing. People like Morrison and members of
>skeptics' clubs seem to think they are free of biases and so do
>absolutely nothing to keep them in check.


>BTW: I noticed that Morrison, repeating his story about Buzz
>Aldrin, ignores the fact that Aldrin said in the debriefing
>shortly after the mission that the object he saw on the way to
>the Moon was not the same shape "at all" as the booster rocket
>adapter panel that he now says, 4 decades later, was probably
>what he saw.  Aldrin's original statement has been ignored so
>often and so studiously that it apparently has died from
>neglect.


Hi Lan,

I think the fairest thing for me to do is to personalise my
original comments and state that _I_ don't expect any better
from Dr. Morrison. We do really need to bear in mind the
difference between "normal" scepticism and that practiced by CSI
(CSICOP) which is a branch of its own, and one which does no
favours to mainstream scepticism.

I also think part of the problem is the way we view scientists;
on a pedestal. They're ordinairy people, foibles 'n all. A good
many of them even apparently believe in God, which personally I
find incomprehensible.


Stuart




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