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Re: Roswell Incident Recalled By Vet Who Was There

From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:10:56 +0100
Archived: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:38:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Roswell Incident Recalled By Vet Who Was There


>From: Gerald O'Connell <gac.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:50:43 +0100
>Subject: Re: Roswell Incident Recalled By Vet Who Was There

>>From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 18:31:20 +0100
>>Subject: Re: Roswell Incident Recalled By Vet Who Was There

>><snip>

>>I may be wrong but I don't believe the term "humanoid" existed
>>in 1947. Wasn't it a ufologists' word coined in the late '50s,
>>early '60s?

>The online etymology dictionary gives the first appearance of
>the word as being in 1918.

>http://www.etymonline.com/

>Whether the word was in common usage in 1947 is another matter
>altogether. My feeling is that it probably wasn't, but I suspect
>that somebody well-versed in the history of pulp science fiction
>would be best situated to answer that question.

I think you have it right, Gerald. My impression that it was a
ufological neologism came from my memory of Charles Bowen's
introduction to FSRs 1966 special issue The Humanoids. Having now
dug it out to look, that memory turns out to have been slightly
inaccurate. Bowen gives "humanoid" as an invented term, not in
the dictionary, but more apt to his purpose than anthropological
terms like "hominid" or "hominoid". Evidently he isn't saying it
was a ufological invention, but he appears to be saying that it
was a ufological re-coining. So now I wonder when it was first
used in this way?

Interestingly I've been told off-List by the science fiction
author Damien Broderick that Jack Williamson's sci fi novel The
Humanoids originated in a short story "With Folded Hands..."
published in ASTOUNDING STORIES in 1947. The "Humanoids" were
robot helpers who remove all risk from human life. An initially
benign Utopia turns into horrific tyranny when stultified and
repressed humans attempt to rebel - the Humanoids operate on
their brains, removing not only the desire to rebel but also the
memory of ever having done so.

Damien points out that "With Folded Hands..." appeared in the
July 1947 issue (and continued as "...And Searching Mind" in
March, April and May 1948); further, that it would have been on
sale a month or more earlier than that cover date; and that
"ASTOUNDING was exactly the prime reading material of a lot of
those technical/military guys."


Martin Shough



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