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Re: NASA Video Captures UFO In Orbit

From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul>
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:53:51 +0100
Archived: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:06:10 -0400
Subject: Re: NASA Video Captures UFO In Orbit

>From: Nick Balaskas <Nikolaos.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:32:30 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
>Subject: Re: NASA Video Captures UFO In Orbit

>>From: Joachim Koch <lists.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:19:00 +0200
>>Subject: NASA Video Captures UFO In Orbit


>>The object is remarkable in itself but the most amazing thing to
>>me is that it is pacing the booster rocket and one of the
>>object's "antennae" appears to be always pointing directly at
>>the object as if tracking it and taking telemetry.

>This "object" is very likely an optical reflection. This is
>supported by the fact that it appears only at the moment when
>the tumbling Shuttle liquid fuel tank is no longer illuminated
>by any sunlight and appears totally dark. The object would have
>been dark too if it was solid and also in the vicinity of the
>depleted fuel tank.

This so-called reasoning is fallacious. First the tank is still
illuminated. All that has happened is that the major axis of the
tumbling cylinder, hitherto nearly transverse to the line of
sight, has rotated to be more nearly longitudinal to the line of
sight. The sunlit surface is momentarily hidden by the
perspective, and reappears presently as the tank continues in
its rotation

Secondly this local change in the orientation of one object
bears no relation whatsoever to any possible illumination
geometry of an independently-moving second object. The idea that
the UAP ought to simultaneously become shadowed is preposterous.

And the underlying assumption - that a genuine UAP would have to
be an intrinsically "dark" "solid" "object" visible only by
reflected sunlight - is a is a fanciful straw man in any case.

>The reasoning that this object is a
>reflection is confirmed by the observations that the "antennae"
>is actually pointing towards the Sun and thus only appears to
>be "tracking" the fuel tank.

This claim is completely unintelligible. The inconsistent
grammar of "the antennae is...  (etc)" can only confuse Listers,
so I should explain for anyone who has not watched the video
that there are three of these "antennae", not one, arranged
roughly 120 degs apart. Also, the "antenna" which appears to be
tracking the fuel tank is doing so from the side of the tank
that is illuminated by the sun. So one might well wonder how it
can be that it is simultanously "pointing towards the sun".
Perhaps Nick means to say that it is pointing in a direction
reciprocal to the sun? Or that whilst one antenna is tracking
the tank another is pointing towards the sun?

It doesn't really matter because neither interpretation can be
true except momentarily, and by chance. During the film the
"tripod" rotates in plan by almost 80 degrees relative to the
video frame of reference, which of course is locked onto the
straight inertial trajectory of the tank falling away below. (The
trajectory of the tank is obviously arbitrary in relation to the
position of the sun.) This is obviously far too great to match
any change of bearing to the sun. Neither the camera nor the
Shuttle reference frame is rotating at all (the Shuttle is in a
flattening trajectory near its final orbital altitude at this
time and traveling nose-first at maybe 170,000mph), never mind
spinning at a rate of 20deg/sec, and I know of no evidence of any
recent solar miracle of Old Testament proportions.

The "object" does in some respects resemble a reflection in
glass, and I tend to agree that a secondary or tertiary
reflection from internal Shuttle surfaces is probably what it
would turn out to be, if we could re-run the event. But
identifying it as such is not so easy and the arguments offered
here are specious.

Martin Shough

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