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Re: Once More The Term 'Flying Saucers'

From: David Rudiak <drudiak.nul>
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:01:01 -0700
Archived: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 17:36:35 -0400
Subject: Re: Once More The Term 'Flying Saucers'


>From: Greg Boone <evolbaby.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:35:09 -0700
>Subject: Re: Once More The Term 'Flying Saucers'

>However I'm still unclear as to whether people reported such
>disk-shaped craft, platters_before_Kenneth Arnold's report.

Here's an example from a 1999 UFO Updates post. It was a WWI
sighting from 1917. The object was compared to the military
"mess plate", which resembled a pie pan. It was very large and
appeared over multiple days. In the first sighting, it appeared
directly over one of the new land tanks and was described as
rising straight up in the air. Attempts were made to photograph
it by a scientific team in successive days, but rumors were that
the photos always came out black (radiation?).

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From: Stig Agermose <stig.agermose.nul
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 02:01:03 GMT
Date Archived: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 18:01:08 -0500
Subject: US GI & UFO Incident in WW1 France


Source: "alt.alien.visitors".

Stig

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From: louflirpa.nul (Lou F. Lirpa)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Doughboy Tracked Ufos In France
Date: 22 Mar 1999 20:02:09 GMT


In October of 1917, Francis McHouney of the 302nd Barrage
Balloon squadron, US Army Air Corp, tracked and logged several
dozen "spurious flying objects [that] were not Boche or one of
our guys". Their unit had Remington Acoustical trackers (large
horns that amplified sound waves and were used well into the
second World War) and the then top secret Marconi Wireless
Aerial Direction Finder (a predecessor of radar).

"Me and the boys had moved up and around the asembling [sic]
area for our next big attack against the Boche. We had heard
about the new land battleships that was going to win us the war.
Our unit was to put up balloons to keep the Boche from flying
over. We had detectors up and manned to give [us] warning if any
enemy planes were coming so that the swabbies in the landships
could get them under cover".

McHouney continues, "We had heard rumours about fantastic Boche
aeroplanes that seemed to be watching anywhere the landships
were. That was why we were there, to keep them away. Our
balloons were up, 4 at 500 feet, about 300 feet apart. Four up
at 1000 feet further back in a second line and the final four at
1400 feet, by the book as Capt. Burns would say." [Ed. the 301st
and 303rd were also present, the three units deployed in a
semicircle in front of the army assembly area.]

"The first time [I] saw them, I was on leave which meant I could
go to the rear trenches. Me and a couple of others went to look
at the land ships but couldn't get near them cause of the MPs.
We could see 'em across in the field, all covered with branches
to hide them. Only branches left for miles, must've hauled them
up from way back in the rear. Scary looking things, all
bristling with guns."

"Jed [Ed. Jed Wilson, boyhood friend of Mchouney, they joined up
together] shouted and pointed up. There was something that
looked like a giant mess plate [Ed. A mess plate was a tin plate
that looks very similar to a modern pie pan, about 8" in
diameter used by US Army soldiers in WWI and WWII] just hanging
over the field, directly above one of the landships. Suddenly,
it rose straight up, without making a sound until it faded into
the clouds."

When McHouney arrived back to his unit, he found that the
Marconis had registered something BEHIND them that just appeared
and then disappeared. The Remingtons had detected nothing when
hurridly turned around and aimed backwards. Over the course of
the next few days, the object appeared and disappeared every few
hours, causing a disturbance each time.

"We were ordered to close up the spacing of the balloons and
move backwards, until after a week the ballons were almost
touching. A daredevil could walk around the camp on the balloons
if he wanted to. We let them up to 2500 feet and used up darn
near all the cables on the front and would've gone higher if we
could've got more."

The objects continued to be sighted. McHouney continues "On the
23rd we received visitors, Mr Churchill, who invented the land
ships [Ed. Churchill was responsible for pushing through the
development of the tanks but others are credited with the
invention] and a Mr Wells who was introduced as a scientific
advisor to the Ministry, and some others. They set up a couple
of cameras but rumour was all the pictures came out black, as if
the plates were exposed to light accidently."

Later, "We were all questioned about what we had seen and the
log books off the Remingtons and the Marconis were taken. They
told us not to talk about this to anyone, but the Boche had a
new super Zepplin and we were seeing the observation car hanging
down from it. We all accepted this but years later, I came to
doubt it. What we saw was BIG and it would've taken a very big
Zepplin to carry it." [From "Boche and Balloons, My Experiences
With The 302nd", Francis McHouney, published 53/04/01 by Smythe
Books, London, England]

Curiously, no record of these incidents appears in official unit
records of the US Army Air Corp and the last surviving member
[Walter "Smitty" Smith, 301st] of the 301st, 302nd, and 303rd,
died on April 1, 1968 of cancer in the Pembrooke VA Hospital in
North Carolina.

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David Rudiak



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