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Re: Leir Turns Believers Into Sceptics

From: Dave Haith <visions.nul>
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:34:05 +0100
Archived: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:24:23 -0400
Subject: Re: Leir Turns Believers Into Sceptics

>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:52:13 +0200
>Subject: Re: Leir Turns Believers Into Sceptics

>>From: Greg Boone <evolbaby.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 09:23:35 -0700
>>Subject: Re: Leir Turns Believers Into Sceptics

>>>From: Diane Harrison <auforn06.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 07:56:23 +1000
>>>Subject: Believers Turn Into Sceptics After Conference

>>>Source: The Rotorua Daily Post - Wellington, New Zealand



>>>Believers Turn Into Sceptics After Conference
>>>By Matthew Martin

>>>Even the true believers at a UFO conference in Rotorua were
>>>sceptical after a keynote speaker's presentation.

>>>Delegates at the UFOCUS New Zealand conference were less than
>>>impressed with American podiatrist Dr Roger Leir, who claims to
>>>have surgically removed alien implants from humans.

>>>Conference organisers are defending him, saying he is "highly
>>>credible", but delegates told the Daily Post they were not
>>>convinced by his presentation.


>>One would figure after all the time that Dr. Leir has spent
>>presenting his research that some form of conclusion would have

>>He's been digging these objects out of people's hides for
>>several years now.

>>Bottom line questions arise.

>>Why hasn't there been a full peer reviewed analysis of his
>>findings? Is it because the other medical professionals don't
>>give him notice or has he himself or his team been reticent to
>>share? Only he can answer these questions.

>Greg, and the List,

>I became friend with Roger Leir in 1999. I was reading his first
>book, and it seemed very interesting. We were both invited to
>the Leeds conference, and so I had the chance to talk with him.
>I saw him as a credible person.

>I have seen him again several times - we had dinner together in
>Roswell in July.

>I have listened to many critiques, and I have not changed my

I am pleased to see that a couple of people are speaking up for
Roger Leir.

It has always surprised me when somebody rushes into print
with heavy criticism of a fellow researcher when it would be far
kinder to raise the issue by first emailing the person you are
criticising and asking for the answers.

Maybe John Velez, whose queries about peer review etc seem valid,
did just that, but in that case he would surely have told us what
Leir's excuses are.

Mud sticks - so I would prefer to know that the person who is the
target, deserves getting it in the neck.

I have met Roger Leir too and he has never struck me as a
person who would not give a reasonable answer, if posed a
critical question.


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