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Re: Diversity Of UFO Morphology

From: Lan Fleming <lfleming5.nul>
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:38:41 -0500
Archived: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:44:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Diversity Of UFO Morphology

>From: Joe Faccenda <Uforth.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:16:08 EDT
>Subject: Re: Diversity Of UFO Morphology

>>From: Richard Hall <dh12.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:45:25 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Diversity Of UFO Morphology

>>If we restrict the question to the photographic evidence alone,
>>and even to 'saucer-like' objects, can anyone cite a pair of
>>photos from independent sightings that depict objects that are a
>>clear geometric match? If indeed there are none, is this not

>Even though my Website is dedicated to UFO shapes and


>I have to admit trying to find identical photos of the same type
>of craft is very difficult.

>There are strong similarity's in many reports, and even a few
>very close matches with photos/drawings:

>The Heflin/Ure Idaho,Aug 15th 1947 for instance.

>In my own case the UFO I saw and drew, was seen and photographed
>two months later, but I have yet to see another photo of this
>craft taken in a different location.

>At best all that could be said is that there are 'types' be it
>Cylinder, Flat top, Triangular, etc.

>And while reports can be consistent from type to type, photo
>images leave a lot to be desired.

Of course the skeptical argument for this would be that hoaxers
like to add their own personal touches to their flying saucer
models and photoshopped images. But there is at least one good
match: the Trent photos and a photo allegedly taken in Rouen,
France in 1957. Unfortunately, the provenance of the Rouen photo
is unknown and some people think it's even a retouched copy of
the Trent photo. There's a good recap of the debate about the
Rouen photo at:


Whether or not the Rouen photo is real, it seems to me that even
if photographs of two identical objects were taken, it's
unlikely that the photos could  be used to prove the objects
were identical. Two identical objects would almost always be
photographed at different angles and under different lighting
conditions. Even if there were multiple photos taken during both
sightings showing the two objects at different angles,
(something that rarely happens), it would be unlikely that the
two sets of photos would be sufficient to infer that the 3-
dimensional shapes of both objects were identical.

Even with conventional aircraft, you're not likely to see two
identical photographs. About the only commercial aircraft I can
positively identify is the 747 due to its distinctive upper
deck, so I wouldn't even be able to identify a 747 from a bottom
view. Although an aviation expert or pilot could easily identify
the types of most aircraft, that's because they have access to
information on known types of aircraft such as photographs and
silhouette drawomgs from various angles.  Of course, if anyone
had that kind of information on UFOs, then they wouldn't be

And as someone else already pointed out, it could be that if
some UFOs are ET craft, perhaps their makers are not constrained
by terrestrial mass production methods and every craft is one of
a kind. Maybe the proud owners of flying saucers like to give
their craft a personal touch as much as terrestrial hoaxers like
to give to their models and faked photos.

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