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Re: Friend's Blue Book Viewpoints Question

From: Jan Aldrich <project1947.nul>
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:14:00 -0400
Archived: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 06:02:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Friend's Blue Book Viewpoints Question

>From: Nick Balaskas <nikolaos.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:28:29 -0400
>Subject: Re: Friend's Blue Book Viewpoints Question

>>From: Greg Boone <Evolbaby.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:09:32 EDT
>>Subject: Mr. Friend's Blue Book Viewpoints Question

>>Then Maj. Robert J. Friend was heading Project Blue Book.

>>From what I've read about his tenure, there were problems from
>>critics, funding, interlopers etc.

>>I saw him on television, perhaps on the old Sightings show
>>briefly discussing Blue Book.

>>Are there any books, papers, videos on his viewpoints regarding
>>his time at Project Blue Book, it's conclusions, it's history?

>Some of the strangest things that were investigated by the
>Project Blue Book staff never became part of the public record.

>Regarding Major Robert J. Friend, there is the very fascinating
>account 'The Day the Navy Established 'Contact'' that was
>published in 'Second Look' magazine in May 1979 and reproduced,
>with comments, in Grant Cameron's website (see below). It can
>also found in the UFO UpDates archives.


>As is often the case, there is also Canadian involvement with
>this alleged contact with ETs. Captain Donald Goodspeed, was the
>Canadian liason with the CIA working at the Pentagon at the

>The late Donald Goodspeed was a history professor at Canada's
>Brock University southwest of Toronto who I suspect was the one
>that brought UFO artifacts from the U.S. to Ottawa for analysis
>by our experts. There is reason to believe that Capt. Goodspeed
>may have had close dealings with Major Friend on the subject of
>UFOs and may even have been present, along with Wilbert B. Smith
>and U.S. Vice-Admiral Herbert Knowles, at many prior meetings
>with these alleged ETs through contact Frances Swan - a close
>neighbour to abductee Betty Hill.

>I can understand why Major Friend at the time would remain
>silent about these alleged but seemingly credible contacts with
>ETs. Is ufology and the public any better prepared now for these
>ET revelations?

In my last message, I said Friend was accused by one ufologist
of being of low intelligence. Crazy like a fox! After Friend
left BB, he wrote one article about his tenure there... the Mrs.
Swan incident! It was in a men's magazine.

Just drag a red herring across uflogists' path, and they will
follow it forever.

Mrs. Swan's story hardly believeable, but supported by Admiral
Knowles and interviewed at the CIA, it must have been important,
right? Wrong! Knowles was a contactee supporter from the days of
Little John's Little Listen Post.

Some of the early pre-Keyhoe NICAP people came from the Little
Listen Post bunch. Harry Salkin a $1000 donar was one such, as
was Knowles. I suspect that Keyhoe knew that Knowles was a
contactee supporter, but made no issue of it since his rank
added prestige to NICAP's board.

Art Lundahl CIA photo analyst chief arranged for James McDonald
to meet with a number of officials and scientists in the
Washington area. He set up meetings for McDonald, and provided
introductions, but when McDonald ask Lundahl about the Navy UFO
project, Lundahl said although he attended the outbriefing, he
remembered nothing of the breifing or the discussion. He gave
McDonald a name which McD had trouble tracing.

Others like Sec of the Navy Kimball was dead at this time and
the other individual that McD had as a lead never answered his

Hughes, McD's contract could find out no info about the Navy
program. Lundahl instead of giving out any useful info, pulled a
red herring on McD, Commander Alvin Moore of "sky stone"
fame... Moore had been seconded to the CIA in its early days.

Lundahl used Moore as red herring more (pun intended) then once.
McD didn't bite.

Mrs. Swan was Friend's red herring used in the same way Lundahl
used his....

Jan Aldrich
Project 1947
P. O. Box 391
Canterbury, CT 06331, USA
(860) 546-9135

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