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NUFORC Posts 895 New Reports & CA Pilot Sighting

From: Peter B. Davenport <director.nul>
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 19:46:40 -0700
Archived: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:55:58 -0400
Subject: NUFORC Posts 895 New Reports & CA Pilot Sighting

For the List's interest, I have posted 895 newly received
reports to the NUFORC website.

It was a prodigious task, proofreading the lot, so there may be
a few 'holidays' among, and in, the reports. If anyone sees
obvious errors, I would be grateful for a short note to that
effect. I will delete obvious hoaxes, and amend those reports
that require it.

A commercial pilot reported a very dramatic sighting that
occurred over California on Sunday morning, October 07, at
approximately . It arrived after I had sent new material to our
webmaster, so it does not appear in the database. I copy an
expurgated version here, for the List's interest.

At first, I thought that the source might be reporting Venus,
which is quite prominent in the morning sky, but as I read
further, I realized that such an explanation seems unlikely,
assuming that his description of its (apparent) size is correct.
However, I have had a 12,000-hour commercial pilot report Venus
as a UFO, so that is a possibility that has to be eliminated.

I have responded to the party who submitted the report, seeking
more information.



Text Of Report Dated October 08, 2007

Description: This sighting occurred while I was acting as Captain during a
routine [type of flight deleted] flight in a [type of a/c deleted] from
OAK (Oakland, CA) to BUR (Burbank, CA). We had leveled-off at FL210 and
were cruising just south of Manteca VOR (a navigational aid near the city of
Manteca, CA).

Traffic at this time of night is usually very light and quite easy to spot
at ranges exceeding 50 miles. ATC (Oakland Center) routinely advises us of
traffic in our area.

While on a mostly southern heading, I noticed a somewhat unusually colored
light off to my nine-o-clock position (east of us). It appeared to be close
to our altitude, but many miles distant (over the foothills of the Sierra
mountain range). Normally, lights seen at that altitude and distance appear
to be of a clear white color. usually the recognition or landing lights of
another aircraft descending into the Bay Area for landing. This light was
exceptionally bright and very yellow in color.

I pointed it out to my First Officer, in passing. He also remarked on how
bright it was. I'd seen unusual lights like this one before - both out over
the ocean and on descent into the Bay Area over Concord, CA. They'd always
turned out to be oil refineries/rigs burning off gas. This light did not
flicker as those had.

As we continued our flight to BUR, we'd occasionally look out to the left to
watch the light - which, over time grew both larger and brighter.

After about five minutes of observing the light, it began to take a definite
shape and seemed to be paralleling our course. The top portion of the light
was semispherical, and the bottom portion formed a clear "V" shape coming to
a point at the base. Over time, this "V" shape with a pointed-bottom became

Our curiosity piqued, I asked my F/O to call Oakland Center and ask if they
had any traffic on their radar at our nine-o-clock, same altitude. They
replied saying that the only traffic in our vicinity was an opposite
direction King Air descending out of 13,000 feet (which both I and my F/O
already had in sight). No traffic at our nine-o-clock was seen on radar.

We continued to watch this bright yellow light grow in size over the next
ten minutes, until it filled about a four-inch square through the window on
my side. It was impossible to accurately gauge our distance to the object,
or its true size, since we didn't have any other visible references against
with to judge it.

Anecdotally, all I can say is that it was both LARGE and of a VERY unusual
shape and color. Other aircraft lights (while flying at night) uniformly
appear to be circular points of light, and are all in standard colors (red,
green, white or white strobe). The light we saw did NOT appear to be a
light ON an aircraft - the light appeared to be the entire outline of some
sort of aircraft.

As I said before, the light appeared to be paralleling our course and coming
closer (i.e., remaining in the same relative position even though we were
moving south at around 300 knots over the ground, yet getting larger).
Please take that observation with a grain of salt though. Without being
close enough to see details on the craft or compare it against a ground
reference - it could just as easily be something very large seen at a great
distance. Things observed at a large distance do not appear to have any
relative motion.

We continued to watch the light until it appeared to take a northern course
away from us at great speed (both decreasing in brightness and size, without
changing altitude).

Both my F/O and I have 5,000+ hours of experience - most of which was gained
under similar circumstances (at night, over California routes). and we were
both flabbergasted by what we saw. We both admitted it made the hair on our
neck stand up. To be honest, I was spooked by the experience, but have
chosen to not bring it up with our airline or the FAA out of concern for
being judged a nut-job.

I'm not saying the things we saw were of extraterrestrial origin - but I am
saying we saw something that (in both of our professional opinions) was
nothing like any other aircraft we've ever experienced in our careers.

[End Report]


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