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Re: Diversity Of UFO Morphology

From: Nick Balaskas <Nikolaos.nul>
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:06:33 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Archived: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:57:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Diversity Of UFO Morphology

>From: Joe Faccenda <Uforth.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:16:08 EDT
>Subject: Re: Diversity Of UFO Morphology

>>From: Richard Hall <dh12.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:45:25 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Diversity Of UFO Morphology

>>If we restrict the question to the photographic evidence alone,
>>and even to 'saucer-like' objects, can anyone cite a pair of
>>photos from independent sightings that depict objects that are a
>>clear geometric match? If indeed there are none, is this not

>Even though my Website is dedicated to UFO shapes and


>I have to admit trying to find identical photos of the same type
>of craft is very difficult.


Hi Joe!

If man-made flying saucers, including models used in movies,
drawings in magazines or comic books, etc. are included, the
answer is yes, there are many clear geometric matches. After
all, art does imitate life. If we were to limit our search to
actual historic photographs or drawings made by eyewitnesses,
both credible and not so credible, then there are a few clear
geometric matches.

One of these rare very close matches is the Trent/McMinnville,
Oregon UFO and the Rouen, France UFO which Lan Fleming pointed
out in his post to the List.

The fact that we do not have other examples of nearly identical
flying saucers (when not seen from directly below or above so
that they all appear round or spherical in shape) is clear
reason to suspect _all_ photographs that depict flying saucers
as hoaxes.

When recently going through NICAP's own set of 20 slides of
"authentic UFO pictures" as a challenge to Richard Hall's claim
that the Rex Heflin flying saucers were not unique, I found two
slides of the same flying saucer that closely match the Heflin
saucer! Although the treeline in both pictures is the same, the
shadows on this flat top flying saucer are reversed in one
slide! The identical skyline would rule out the possibility that
one of the slides was mounted up side down but it could easily
be explained if these two flying saucers pictures were the
product of a cut and paste job - a hoax! If these two UFO images
in NICAP's slides of authentic UFO pictures are indeed fakes,
then we cannot use them as evdience in support that the Rex
Heflin flat top flying saucer, also found in the same NICAP
slide set, is real.

With the possible exception to another flat top flying saucer
taken by amateur astronomer Ralph Ditter of Zanesville, Ohio
(Ottawa Citizen, February 7, 1967), also taken with a Polaroid
camera, I could find no other examples of the Heflin saucer.
From lighting considerations alone, the Zaneswille UFO photo is
an obvious hoax. The only clear geometric matches to the Heflin
flat top flying saucer is a model train wheel! This daming match
with a train wheel is further evidence that even experienced
ufologists can be duped by clever hoaxers.

On the subject of flying saucers, during my search through the
University of Ottawa UFO archives (after many long visits there,
I now have a complete set of my own on several DVDs which I can
go through at my leisure!), Greg Boone and the others on the
List would be interested in a UFO sighting made by John Martin
from his farm on January 24(?), 1878 where he described these
pesky UFOs as "saucer-shaped" (SB-1-P340, April 1967?).

If one were to closely examine the cars found in a large public
parking lot (now or in past decades) they would find that most
cars could be grouped by make - about half a dozen or so. Among
those half dozen makes would be many different models but nearly
all would look very similar (ignoring colours and the year of
the model cars) with quite a few being clear geometric matches!
This is not the case with flying saucers. Unless these UFOs are
custom built and not mass produced as cars on Earth are, the
fact that UFOs are all different is a clear indication to me
that either we are being visited by hundreds of ET races or the
percentage of hoaxed UFO photos is much higher than some of us
are willing to accept.

Although Richard's question is a very important one, no matter
how obvious the answer may be, there will be those stubborn ones
that won't allow observation and simple facts to change their
deeply held beliefs about UFOs.

Nick Balaskas

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