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Re: Boston's Own Robot-Plane Skunk Works

From: David Rudiak <drudiak.nul>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:40:38 -0700
Archived: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:26:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Boston's Own Robot-Plane Skunk Works

>From: Nick Balaskas <Nikolaos.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:27:36 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
>Subject: Re: Boston's Own Robot-Plane Skunk Works

>>From: Gerald O'Connell <gac.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:27:52 +0100
>>Subject: Re: Boston's Own Robot-Plane Skunk Works


>>>One fascinating product is the GoldenEye, which is essentially
>>>a flying ducted fan that generates enough lift to carry a small
>>>payload such as an optical/infrared camera and a laser
>>>designator (used to "light up" targets that can then be
>>>destroyed by missiles). On the ground, the GoldenEye perches
>>>on four legs. When powered up, it leaps from the ground like a
>>>helicopter, then tilts forward and flies with the help of two
>>>stubby wings. (Click here to see a video of the GoldenEye in



>>Isn't that Lonnie Zamorra standing in the background on the
>>right as it lands?

>A very interesting and thought provoking comment Gerald.

Not really.

>Not wanting to reopen an old UFO incident

...then pointlessly reopening it.

>already discussed on
>the List, yes, back in 1964, New Mexico policeman Lonnie Zamorra
>(often pictured wearing glasses) could have seen an early
>prototype of such a powered flying platform that has the same
>flight charateristic as this Boston built 'GoldenEye'.

You mean the "same" flight characteristics like landing and
taking off with a rocket-like roar, followed by completely
silent operation after takeoff, then quickly zipping off and
disappearing in the distance, about 6 miles in under 20 seconds
(implying supersonic speeds)? You mean that1964 "ducted fan"?

>One of these powered flying platforms was actually flown and
>crashed by a real spaceman - Neil Armstrong - while training
>for the first manned landing on another world in 1969.

Well I guess that settles it. Zamora must have seen a ducted fan
because "real spacemen" also flew ducted fan craft.

>A much earlier Montreal built version of the GoldenEye, the
>'Peanut' was on public display at the Canada Aviation Museum
>in Ottawa (not there anymore for some reason) next to a manned
>German WWII rocket plane, a British WWII era jet fighter,
>actual remains of the Toronto built Avro Arrow and a U.S. built
>nuclear bomb capable Bomarac missile which replaced the Avro Arrow
>that Canada was forced to scrap.


>Prototypes of the three decades old Peanut and other flying
>platforms were flying around back in 1964, and before, so what

Lonnie Zamora, not "Zamorro". Perhaps you are hybridizing Zamora
with Socorro or Zorro?

>saw may not have been from out of this world. Boston's
>GoldenEye, though impressive, uses existing human

Please, again, point us to a 1964 "ducted fan" with the _actual_
flight characteristics described by Zamora, not just VTOL

Cherry-picking maybe one matching characteristic from a case
while ignoring all that disagree, then claiming to have come up
with a solution is a classic charactistic of mindless debunkery.

>There are many other such flying platforms, both manned and
>unmanned, that I am aware of which have been built and
>test-flown over Toronto now and as far back as the end of

>A few of these can and have been mistaken for UFOs. Some of
>these unconventional man-made UFOs may very well have been
>inspired by non-human technologies.

This is the only thing you've said Nick that might have some
truth to it. Everything else has been utter nonsense.

David Rudiak

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