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Re: Leir Turns Believers Into Sceptics

From: William Sawers <ufsyntax.nul>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 07:01:25 +1000
Archived: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:35:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Leir Turns Believers Into Sceptics

>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:15:02 +0000
>Subject: Re: Believers Turn Into Sceptics After Conference

>>From: Diane Harrison <auforn06.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 07:35:42 +1000
>>Subject: Re: Leir Turns Believers Into Sceptics

>>>From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 04:08:04 -0400
>>>Subject: Re: Believers Turn Into Sceptics After Conference


>>Hi John

>>I'm sending this to this List as it came to me off-list. I
>>thought you might be interested to read what this person has
>>to say regarding Leir.


>>From: sbcl888.nul
>>Date: 8 October 2007 1:18:38 AM
>>To: auforn06.nul

>>In reply to John Valez's unbalanced evaluation of Dr. Leir's
>>work - he missed some vital points and I do not agree with his
>>statements. Although it has been a while since I read Leir's
>>first book (which I don't currently have on me) I do remember
>>there were several key findings.


>>Wake up Velez  YOU ARE A GOOSE

>>It's foolish comments like yours that scare scientists and other
>>professionals from even approaching the subject. (Yes, we must
>>question credibility and research methods - but you haven't
>>looked at both sides of the coin!)

>>S. Blanch

>Well, well, now I think the reason more academic and medical
>professionals don't want to get involved with ufology is the
>chance they take by having to suffer through being called names
>by people who claim they want to be taken seriously.

>Gosh, Velez was not even afforded an intelligent rebuttal; just
>called a name from someone - I assume is a ufologist - signing
>off as "S. Blanch".  It gives one pause to decide who is the
>"goose" in this situation.

Hi Kathy, John, List,

I agree, S Blanch is obviously swayed by Leirs first book which
hit the market after his remarkable claims of alien implant
removals. I do recall a TV doco about Leir speaking of what had
been found as _normal_ anomalies_ often found in humans which
can get covered with a coating supplied by the body as a means
of stopping infection, if the object couldn't be ejected

I've had experience with something similar when my wife had an
inch long sewing needle removed from her knee seven years after
kneeling on it. This broken needle was offered to us as a
souvenir after the surgery and it looked _nothing_ recognizable
as a broken sewing needle, it looked more like a "matchstick".
Very similar to pics I've seen of Leirs objects. I'm sorry but
Leir just doesn't cut it for me either, so John shall we migrate
north or south for the winter?


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