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Re: 'Trained Observers'?

From: Nick Pope <contact.nul>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:48:36 +0100
Archived: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:50:53 -0400
Subject: Re: 'Trained Observers'?


>From: Jan Aldrich <project1947.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 01:04:26 -0400
>Subject: Re: 'Trained Observers'?

>>From: Gerald O'Connell <gac.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 01:29:59 +0100
>>Subject: 'Trained Observers'?

>>>Source: The San Francisco Sentinel - California, USA

>>>http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=5919

>>>11 October 2007

>>>Opening The X-files Inside Britain's UFO Project

>>>By Raf Sanchez

>><snip>

>>>there was enough information, usually in the
>>>form of radar signatures and visual sightings by trained
>>>observers like RAF pilots, yet still no one was able to identify
>>>the object.

>><snip>

>>There it is again, that ubiquitous yet rarely questioned phrase:
>>'trained observers'.

>>Can anybody enlighten me as to the training in observation, or
>>as observers, that RAF pilots receive? (I am particularly
>>curious about that part of their training that educates these
>>dedicated professionals as to how they should proceed when
>>observing an object that they cannot identify - and I mean
>>'while observing', not which forms to fill in afterwards)

<snip>

>Let's see, they are taught to estimate angular position, speed,
>and displacement, aircraft indentification, navigation, weather,
>etc.

>"Trained observer", is sufficiently vague to be somewhat
>suspect. I don't take to mean that they are somehow infallible,
>but they can describe the location of an object in the sky,
>comment on angular size and displacement.

>That does lend a particular "an enhanced status" to the report.

>I was for 16 years a meteorlogical observer, and as such I
>figure I was a trained observer as being able to also describe
>postions and size and displacement and possibly use
>meteorological cues such as cloud types to determine
>approximately height.

<snip>

Exactly. In the course of UFO investigations, nobody at the MoD
ever said there was any such thing as an infallible observer.
But some people _do_ make better witnesses than others, because
of a combination of their training and experience. Jan has
pointed out some of the specifics. If Gerald (or anybody else)
is interested in the details of RAF pilot training, I suggest
asking the MoD:

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/FreedomOfInformation/FOIContact/


Best wishes,

Nick Pope

http://www.nickpope.net



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