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Re: Power Outages In Abductee Home Study?

From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 01:41:45 +0000
Archived: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:07:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Power Outages In Abductee Home Study?

>From: eleanor.nul
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Power Outages In Abductee Home Study?
>Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:46:02 -0400

>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:21:02 +0000
>>Subject: Re: Power Outages In Abductee Home Study?


>>You know my background in Human Subject Protection and my years
>>of acting as the liaison between investigators and human
>>subjects. For you to think it is just a matter of collecting
>>"data" from humans for a statistical analysis without the normal
>>protections afforded subjects, and me not respond. Think again.

>This was environmental data in the home, and not
>the bodies of the targets. Not even videotaping of
>activity in the homes.

It doesn't matter; it is still collecting data on individual
subjects. There are still risks and benefits to the subject.

>Surely a quick scan of the data tracks monitoring
>power (or any other parameters which would have
>indicated a power outage) isn't really invasion of
>anyone's body or privacy, if the abductees' IDs
>are not included?

Oh no. Years of monitoring your privacy seem to have created a
blind spot. Of course, there is an invasion of privacy. Agreed,
nothing identifying the subject should be included. But, that
information would need to be included in an Informed Consent
Form signed by the subject. Also, where the information would be
kept, a coding system which prevents anyone not connected with
the study to know the identity of the subject, how long the
information would be kept, who would have access to it, etc.,

>What has me dumfounded is that the results of
>the study could show substantial disturbances in
>the home environments of the abductees happening
>at dates and times which match their handwritten
>reports of their abduction experiences.

Agreed, it is terrific idea and could prove that the experience
is induced by terristerial means/technology.

>_That_ would be _Earth-shaking_ news, yet the
>seniour ufologists on this list don't seem to show
>any interest in seeing the results? Isn't the
>abduction issue important? As a member of our
>species, it is the _most_ important issue of the
>entire field, as I see it.

The old guys interested in ufology are stuck in the "if it
ain't nuts and bolts, I ain't interested," mode. Abduction
involves other people and having some sophesticated social
skills. Please, you are asking the nerds of the culture to
think outside their own little world/box. Silly girl.

>The combined abilities of the members of this List
>could easily come up with $5,000 over a year, by
>publicizing the need in their magazines, articles in
>other magazines, maybe even UFO documentaries,
>booths at conferences, and on UFO web sites.

You and I have both tried to publize an issue that the public
had difficulty accepting as 'real'. If this List is having
trouble, and based on my own experience, I have serious doubts
that what you propose would work. I wish it would. The only
magazine giving serious space to articles on abduction is UFO
DATA in England - and that is because Phil Mantle and crew are
open to the issue.

>I'm just very puzzled as to why this hasn't already been done.

I'm not. I wish it could be otherwise. I started trying years
ago to begin a serious dialog within the ufology community. My
appeal ended with silence from the crowd out there.

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