From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:49:58 -0400
Archived: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:41:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Alien Semiotics/Alien Symbol Study


>From: Richard Hall <dh12.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:41:59 -0400
>Subject: Re: Alien Semiotics/Alien Symbol Study

>>From: Greg Sandow <greg.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:57:19 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Alien Semiotics/Alien Symbol Study

>>>From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:59:59 -0400
>>>Subject: Re: Alien Semiotics/Alien Symbol Study

>>>This one is for Mr. Sandow: Greg, do you know what happened to
>>>the writing samples that Budd submitted to Stuart Appelle at
>>>Cornell?

>>>Last I heard it was all collecting dust on a shelf in Stuart's
>>>office. Any thing new?

>>To rewind the film a little further:

>>For many years, Budd Hopkins has collected reports of alien
>>symbols from abductees he's worked with. Some of them say
>>they've seen symbols, or writing, and have drawn them. I've
>>spoken to two of the abductees who say they've seen the symbols.

>>I've also seen Budd's collection of these recollections. It's
>>enough to chill your blood. The reports are so similar that,
>>speaking non-scientifically, it really seems as if people have
>>independently seen these things. I've promised not to describe
>>the symbols, because that could contaminate future reports. But
>>they have a definite configuration. The symbols that a large
>>number of abductees have drawn from memory all have that
>>configuration. They might differ in details, but the overall
>>configuration is strikingly similar. It's as if everyone had
>>drawn things that looked like letters from the Hebrew alphabet.
>>They'd be distinctly different from the Russian alphabet, or
>>from our own, and distinctly similar to each other. I'm not
>>saying these symbols from the abductees look anything like
>>Hebrew. They don't. But they truly resemble each other, just as
>>letters from the Hebrew alphabet resemble each other.

><snip>

>>Greg Sandow

>I concur with what Greg says here, including his remarks that I
>snipped about scientific study. I know about the symbols, know
>some of the people who have drawn them, and once during my
>active years working with abducrees obtained a "hit" of my own.
>The similarities are, indeed, chilling.

>In my case I had the person draw a sketch of what he had seen,
>recognized the symbol immediately, and as I recall - after my
>goosebumps faded - didn't say a word. A mistake that some
>researchers make in their excitement over a discovery is to
>blurt out what amounts to a strong confirmation of the person's
>worst fears, without regard to their psychological well-being.


Hi Greg, Dick, All,

Mr. Sandow:

Thanx for taking time out of what I know to be a very busy
schedule to respond to my post. I kinda figured as much myself.
I thought 'maybe' you had some new bit of info to share.

It's a shame isn't it how opportunities seem to slip through our
fingers like sand. You are not alone in your opinion BTW, it was
a bone-chilling experience for me too. Worse for me was the fact
that I was directly involved. It was a very powerful
confirmation for me for something I desperately hoped was a
psychological glitch I could possibly get help with. Who ya
gonna call when aliens are kidnapping you at will?

Maybe one day the material will get the attention it deserves.

Mr. Hall:

You wrote,

>In my case I had the person draw a sketch of what he had seen,
>recognized the symbol immediately, and as I recall - after my
>goosebumps faded - didn't say a word. A mistake that some
>researchers make in their excitement over a discovery is to
>blurt out what amounts to a strong confirmation of the person's
>worst fears, without regard to their psychological well-being.

I wish that had been the case with me. I was presented with a
chilling confirmation that had a deeply profound effect on me.
I've always had a strong foundation so I quickly regained my
equilibrium. But it wasn't easy. Not by a long-shot.

* I'll try real hard to make the conference at the end of the
month, Dick. I'll be in touch. Bev and I are both looking
forward to seeing you.


Warmest regards to you both,

John



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