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Re: Is Ufology 'Anti-Science'?

From: Eleanor White <eleanor.nul>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:31:03 -0400
Archived: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:50:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Is Ufology 'Anti-Science'?


>From: Gerald O'Connell <gac.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:21:31 +0100
>Subject: Re: Is Ufology 'Anti-Science'?

<snip>

>>>I suggest the number one factor is that since Roswell or
>>>thereabouts, there has been a very slick but powerful campaign
>>>to make ufology look like a synonym for mental illness.

>>Several of the posts relating to Eleanor's comments below were
>>written as if she were coming across as being conspiratorial or
>>worse. This is just not the case.

>I must dispute this.

>Eleanor refers to a 'well co-ordinated campaign of
>discreditation by both the government and the media', while you
>yourself reiterate and endorse this assertion. How could such a
>thing arise or exist without there being some form of secret
>agreement in place that would amount to a conspiracy?


The point is, there _is_ a conspiracy. Conspiracies are common
among people in power. Government and the media today are
particularly conspiratorial, i.e. the media furthers government
goals, and does little honest investigative reporting. (Unless,
maybe, tracking down an epidemic of littering on Elm Street.)

The reason it can't easily be "proven" is the entities charged
with society's well being, government and the media, are the
only _sources_ of the evidence needed, and they're denying it.

>There is a more realistic explanation for what actually happens,
>and one that does not require any form of conspiratorial
>agreement to be in place and maintained over time between a vast
>array of individuals and organisations,

>I refer to the simple social dynamics of fear and embarrassment:

Embarrassment clearly isn't a worry to government or the media.

Just look at the ridiculous cover stories put out to 'explain'
Roswell. Or making a big deal out of the Phoenix "lights" while
blocking any mention of the huge V-shaped craft seen by
thousands, (I believe?)

Or other events which I won't debate here but most Listers will
be aware of at least some of them.

Embarrassment is easily overcome anyway, by letting one group of
leaders leave office over time, then putting the blame on them.

Embarrassment does not explain the intense obfuscation
we've seen over the past half century.


Eleanor White




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