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Re: Governments UFOs & Abductions

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:22:55 -0300
Archived: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:22:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Governments UFOs & Abductions


>From: Richard Hall <dh12.nul>
>Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:11:24 -0400
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Subject: Re: Governments UFOs & Abductions

>>From: Eleanor White <eleanor.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:39:57 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Governments UFOs & Abductions

>>>From: Harper Carlotto <harpc.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:52:33 +0200
>>>Subject: Governments UFOs & Abductions [was: Videotaping Those Elusive Aliens]

>>>a) They know this is happening, but they don't know why and they
>>>can't do anything about it. Imagine what would happen if Bush or
>>>Putin or Merkel would go public on TV saying: "...by the way we
>>>know there is alien scum out there that kidnaps you from your
>>>cars, bedrooms or wherever. We're sorry this is happening, but we
>>>don't know who they are doing it and we can't stop them." 5min
>>>later all hell would break loose on this planet.

>>I can't agree there, Harper, any more than if government
>>revealed that UFOs seen in the sky are visitors from other
>>planets. In my view, the response would be the usual bell-
>>shaped curve thing, a few (very few in my view) would freak
>>out, most would show varying degrees of interest including
>>demanding a plan from government, and a few would hail this as a
>>wonderful thing.

>Having discussed this issue with my brother who is a retired
>professor of sociology and social psychology who even taught
>classes about panic, and also having edited a monograph about
>the implications of ET contact, I agree with Eleanor on this
>point. The popular reaction depends a lot on how authority
>figures release information and deal with the issues.

>However, this does not mean that people in high places who
>withhold information are sophisticated enough to make sound
>decisions. All the historical evidence suggests that a largely
>unfounded fear of panic has been the justification for
>withholding information.

>My brother argues that the often cited alleged panic following
>Orson Welles' invasion from Mars broadcast has been grossly
>exaggerated, and he even presented a paper at a MUFON conference
>on that and the panic issue.

Bang on, Dick. It makes for a better TV movie as well. I've
stated my distrust of the mass hysteria theory over the years
and yet those arguing for it always bring up this War of the
Worlds radio program. How come then there was no mass hysteria
when the British were having the hell bombed out of them during
WWII or the Germans were experiencing the same in Berlin,
Dresden and Hamburg toward the end of the war. Even in the case
of a theater fire it strikes me that panic there is more
immediate and a reaction of self-preservation.

>As I have stated before (and probably will again on appropriate
>occasions), there may be a cover-up of some evidence (vitally
>important evidence if Roswell is real) but mostly my studies
>indicate that authorities simply can't digest the bizarre data
>(can't get their heads around it) and so hide their heads in the
>sand and pretend it isn't happening.

>Abductions, of course, would be the hardest part to deal with in
>all respects. If authorities do have direct knowledge of
>abductions, then I sympathize with them and agree with Harper on
>the difficulty of telling the truth. Still, if that is the
>reality that we will need to deal wirh I think the authorities
>must be forthcoming eventually.

I'm sure that some - perhaps many given the numbers - of those in
authority have first hand knowledge of that phenomenon. This is
not restricted to the general population but is all pervasive.
Why not highly placed government, military and police officials.

Out of the dozen or so people I have had contact with in this
regard, about one-third of them were in positions of authority
or power. These include government officials [one very highly
ranked], two personnel working with Transport Canada, a military
person of high rank-another a rating and police personnel[2] one
of which is a homicide detective.

In this case I don't think it is an us and them situation. Why
would these "abductors" restrict themselves just to the general
population? Why not go right to the top?

One caveat. If, as it is believed, that these abductions begin
during one's youth [4 or 5 years old] and then continue into
that person's middle years-say mid forties - and the abductions
cease then it might make it more difficult for the abductors to
make a determination as to who is going to be chosen once past
the mid twenties. Military and police subjects would be
predictable because it is a career often begun in their late
teens or early 20s and continued for sometimes decades.

Politicians, however, can be "born" at any stage in life,
possibly then making it more difficult to start the process if
they are already in their middle age which seems to be when most
abductees are spared further experiences. Correct me if I am
wrong on that point.

Sometimes 'they' might just luck out having been interferring in
a person's life from childhood and this person just happens to
become a politician-unless these abductors can foresee the
future beyond pure chance.


Don Ledger



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