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Roswell Saucer Incident Witness Tells Story

From: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:25:41 -0400
Archived: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:25:41 -0400
Subject: Roswell Saucer Incident Witness Tells Story




Source: The San Diego Union-Tribune, California, USA

http://tinyurl.com/24z6et

October 26, 2007


Witness To Roswell Flying Saucer Incident Tells His Story
By Pat Sherman


ESCONDIDO -- Retired Air Force veteran Milton Sprouse clearly
remembers the summer day in 1947 when he returned to Roswell
Army Air Field aboard the B-29 bomber Dave's Dream from a three-
day maneuver in Florida.

The Escondido resident, then a corporal and engine mechanic in
the Army Air Forces could not believe what his ground crew was
telling him: a UFO had crashed in the New Mexico desert, on a
ranch 70 miles away.

The story made the front page of the Roswell Daily Record: "RAAF
Captures Flying Saucer," read the headline.

According to the July 8 story, "the intelligence office of the
509th Bombardment group at Roswell Army Air Field announced...
that the field has come into possession of a flying saucer."

The craft supposedly had been recovered after the ranch owner
notified the sheriff's department, who sent Maj. Jesse Marcel
and a team to investigate.

"Marcel and a detail from his department went to the ranch and
recovered the disk," the story stated. "After the intelligence
officer here had inspected the instrument it was flown to higher
headquarters."

The next day, the paper retracted the story, claiming that the
recovered object was a weather balloon - an account the
government stuck with until 1995. It was then announced that the
weather ballon story had been fabricated to cover up Project
Mogul, a top-secret project involving two-dozen high-altitude
neoprene balloons designed to detect Russian nuclear explosions.

According to Sprouse, five of his crew were called to the site
to collect the remaining debris and load it onto a flatbed
truck. Sprouse was ordered to stay with Dave's Dream in case the
military should suddenly need the craft.

"I had reservations of what all they were telling me, because
each one of them told something different," he said. "I thought,
'I don't know.'.... Later on, when it all started coming out in
piecemeal, you could put it together and tell what they said was
true."

As years passed, Sprouse grew more comfortable talking about the
Roswell Incident.

Author and ufologist Thomas J. Carey interviewed Sprouse three
times with co-author Donald Schmitt. Sprouse is mentioned on
page 233 of their new book, "Witness to Roswell: Unmasking the
60-Year Cover-Up."

During his first interview, videotaped at the International UFO
Museum and Research Center in Roswell, Sprouse was reluctant to
talk about the incident, Carey said.

"He was a career Air Force guy, and they're the least likely to
speak because of their pensions," Carey said. "When I
interviewed him over the phone in 2001, I got a little more
information, and then I interviewed him again last year and got
even more. It was an evolution of coming forward."

Today, as Sprouse recounts the incident, he leans forward in
earnest, a conspiratorial gleam in his eyes.

About 500 soldiers sent to the crash site were lined shoulder to
shoulder and ordered to scour the property for debris, he said.

"They lined them up and then said, 'We want you to go through
this ranch the way you're facing until we tell you to stop, and
we want you to pick up everything unnatural,'" Sprouse said.

"When my crew got back (from the crash site), we talked for
weeks," he said. "They told me everything and I believe them....
They told me, 'Milt, it's true.' "

Among the material discovered was a maleable, foil-like material
that could be laid flat with no creases after being squashed
into a ball.

Whether fact or lore, one of the most intriguing pieces of the
puzzle are reports of five diminutive green bodies allegedly
recovered with the UFO. Sprouse believes it.

A staff sergeant in his barracks was called to the hospital
shortly after the crash, he said.

"He and two doctors and two nurses were in the emergency room,
and they brought in one of those five humanoid bodies that they
had recovered," he said. "They said, 'We want this dissected and
we want a complete history of how it functions and the parts and
everything.' "

The next day, the man from his barracks was transferred from the
base, Sprouse said.

"We never heard from him again," he said. "We asked and (they
said), 'Oh, we don't know nothing about it.'... I heard later
that both nurses and both doctors were shipped different
directions and nobody ever knew where they went."

Sprouse recalled an interesting conversation with the owner of a
funeral home in Roswell several years later.

"We had some friend of ours that died, and he said, 'Hey Milt, I
want to talk to you,'" he said. "He says, 'You know the base
come to me and wanted five children's caskets.' That was two or
three days after the crash. I said, 'No kidding.' He says, 'I
only had one, and I told them that.' They said, 'One won't do us
very good,' and they went somewhere else and got them."

The day the UFO story ran, the debris was allegedly loaded onto
two B-29 bombers, one of them Dave's Dream, and sent to a base
in Fort Worth, Texas.

Sprouse and Carey believe the material was then shipped to
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio, where they say
it remains today.

"We believe some of the stuff was loaned around, but the main
repository was the foreign technology division at Wright-
Patterson," said Carey, who holds a master's degree in
anthropology and served briefly in the Air Force. "We've heard
stories over the years of people who say that they're still
trying to figure out what that stuff is."

Various rumors suggest that pieces of the ship and the bodies
were stored in a mysterious Hangar 18 at Wright-Patterson.

Derek Kaufman, who works in Wright-Patterson's public affairs
office, was tentative when broaching the subject of Roswell and
Hangar 18. He said the base tracks all such phone inquiries.

"We might get a couple of queries a month related to strange
phenomena.... Someone who believes that they've seen something
very unusual =96 low-flying, strange aircraft or something along
those lines," Kaufman said. "Folks who are UFO enthusiasts are
typically the people that inquire about Hangar 18 or about
Roswell, but a lot of them don't seem to be credible queries.
They seem to be folks bordering on the fanatic.... I'm hard-
pressed to describe where Hangar 18 even is located."

Asked if there was any material from Roswell transferred to the
base in 1947, Kaufman said, "I'll just defer to what reports
have been exhaustively investigated and are now available to the
general public."

Wright-Patterson's Web site includes a section titled "UFOs and
other strange phenomena" that includes links to the Air Force
Freedom of Information Act Web site and a 993-page document
titled, "The Roswell Report: Fact Versus Fiction in the New
Mexico Desert." In the report, the government meticulously makes
its case debunking the Roswell Incident.

According to the report, the bodies recovered at the site were
not alien beings, but crash-test dummies used to test high-
altitude parachutes.

UFO enthusiasts say they couldn't have been dummies because the
parachute tests weren't conducted until nearly a decade later.

"That's a non-starter because that project didn't get under way
until the mid-'50s," Carey said. "These mannequins were a good 6
feet tall, they looked human and they were in regular flight
suits. There's no way you confuse those for little aliens with
big heads."

Asked if there are any remnants of the mysterious event stored
at Roswell, Rob Young, a historian with the National Air and
Space Intelligence Center at Wright-Patterson, answered, "I
would not know. I've never seen anything like that.... To my
knowledge there is not."

Sprouse believes the Roswell Incident is a far-reaching cover-up
that leads as far as the White House.

"The presidents are briefed on everything... classified,
unclassified, whether they'll acknowledge it or not," Sprouse
said. "Clinton, says, 'I don't know nothing.' Carter says, 'I
don't know nothing about that.' Bush won't even talk about it."

Sprouse's wife, Peggy, a retired Air Force lieutenant colonel,
is skeptical about the UFO story. She's been to Roswell with her
husband and said once was enough.

"Been there, done that," she said. "I never did believe it and
still don't believe it."

Sprouse, who will speak at the Nov. 18 meeting of the San Diego
Chapter of the Mutual UFO Network, seems to be enjoying his part
in keeping the story alive.

Has the government ever asked him not to speak about Roswell?

"No, but I worry about it," he said. "I'm getting all these
telephone calls on that report, and I often wonder if it's
somebody looking into this."

[Side Bar]

The Roswell Incident and Milton Sprouse

When: 6 p.m. Nov. 18

Where: Mutual UFO Network of San Diego meeting, Sizzler
restaurant, 3755 Murphy Canyon Road, San Diego

Cost: Free

Information: Mel Podell, 760-753-2456 or mpodell.nul

The Roswell Report

www.af.mil/library/roswell

---

Pat Sherman: 760-752-6774
pat.sherman.nul



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