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Re: Alien Semiotics/Alien Symbol Study

From: Carol Rainey <csrainey1.nul>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:04:02 -0400
Archived: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:16:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Alien Semiotics/Alien Symbol Study


>From: Katharina Wilson <K_Wilson.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:43:23 -0500
>Subject: Re: Alien Semiotics/Alien Symbol Study

>>From: Sergey Shpakovsky <sergejsh.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:34:01 -0400 (EDT)
>>Subject: Alien Semiotics/Alien Symbol Study

>>>From: Greg Sandow <greg.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:57:19 -0400
>>>Subject: Re: Alien Semiotics/Alien Symbol Study

<snip>

>>>I've also seen Budd's collection of these recollections. It's
>>>enough to chill your blood. The reports are so similar that,
>>>speaking non-scientifically, it really seems as if people have
>>>independently seen these things.

<snip>

>>>they have a definite configuration. The symbols that a large
>>>number of abductees have drawn from memory all have that
>>>configuration. They might differ in details, but the overall
>>>configuration is strikingly similar. It's as if everyone had
>>>drawn things that looked like letters from the Hebrew
>>>alphabet.

>Dr. Leir has some symbols drawn by a California abductee posted
>on his site that are similar to the symbols in the video with
>Budd.

>http://www.alienscalpel.com/caliabduct/pages/_DSC0017.html

>http://www.alienscalpel.com/caliabduct/pages/_DSC0018.html

Hi, Katharina and others,

Sorry to disagree, but I don't think Roger Leir's examples
resemble those of Budd's very closely at all.

I'm very familiar with Budd's symbols, as well as with the many,
many different symbols that were sent to him in the mail over
the 11 years that I was working with him on abductions and also
videotaping all aspects of that work, including the symbols. In
letters from people who alleged that they were abductees, they
sometimes included writing or symbols that they said they had
seen in the craft or that were recurring imagery in their lives
- so much so that a few people found themselves obcessively
scribbling certain symbols all over their note- books or
letters. And some letters that came to Budd were filled with
pages of symbols that the writers said were from UFOs. The bulk
of those symbols, though, did _not_ resemble those collected in
his scrapbook, the ones to which you and Greg allude.

Out of the many submitted, only a very few resemble each other.
And those are the ones culled and put together in that scrap-
book, where they are indeed impressive - if you believe that's
what all abductees draw all the time. That isn't the case.

One of the things that I believe Stuart Appelle was going to do
was ask his students, supposedly non-abductees, to draw symbols
that they'd imagine to be aboard a UFO. He would then apply some
sort of statistical analysis to the drawings of both groups to
determine if one could verify that it was outside the realm of
chance that the abductees came up with certain repeated symbols.
(Since I don't understand statistics, I'm sure Stuart would
describe the study with more clarity.)

So there has been no scientifically valid study of those
particular symbols that observers of them have found so
striking. This is very unfortunate and I share John Velez and
Greg Sandow's regret that this has not happened.


Carol Rainey



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