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Re: Alien Semiotics/Alien Symbol Study

From: Rick Nielsen <nilthchi.nul>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:44:37 -0700 (PDT)
Archived: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:59:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Alien Semiotics/Alien Symbol Study

>From: Richard Hall <dh12.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:30:49 -0500
>Subject: Re: Alien Semiotics/Alien Symbol Study

>>From: Carol Rainey <csrainey1.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:04:02 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Alien Semiotics/Alien Symbol Study

>>>From: Katharina Wilson <K_Wilson.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:43:23 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: Alien Semiotics/Alien Symbol Study


>>>Dr. Leir has some symbols drawn by a California abductee posted
>>>on his site that are similar to the symbols in the video with



>>Hi, Katharina and others,

>>Sorry to disagree, but I don't think Roger Leir's examples
>>resemble those of Budd's very closely at all.


>I don't see any close resemblance at all either. Leir's symbols
>are much more varied and look like imaginative doodles. I would
>guess that the proposed experiment with people imagining symbols
>seen on board a UFO might result in something like this.

>Budd's symbols are more patterned and consistent.

> - Dick

I'll agree here with Carol and Dick: Leir's patients' writings
look like random scribbles, or attempts at alien writing.

But to me, those characters in Hopkins' video remind me of Star
Trek's "Old Vulcan" script. I wonder where they came from? Was
Dr. Hynek, or Budd Hopkins, or any other known ufologist ever a
resource for Roddenberry's "Bonanza to the Stars"?

You can check it for yourself at:


You can even download the TrueType font of "Old Vulcan" at:


For a related thought experiment, you might want to check out my
own redux article at:


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