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Re: New Revelations On The Origins Of MJ-12

From: Stuart Miller <stuart.4.nul>
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:45:32 +0100
Archived: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 12:52:57 -0400
Subject: Re: New Revelations On The Origins Of MJ-12

>From: Gerald O'Connell <gac.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:24:54 +0100
>Subject: Re: New Revelations On The Origins Of MJ-12

>>From: Stuart Miller <stuart.4.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:09:07 +0100
>>Subject: Re: New Revelations On The Origins Of MJ-12


>>No one likes to talk
>>about Doty very much because of where conversations like that
>>can lead.

>Really? What a pity. Can you, for the benefit of the ignorant
>and naive (I have a foot in each camp), elucidate a little

Certainly, as you ask so nicely.

>If somebody were to find out who has really been paying Doty's
>wages all these years, then 'conversations like that' could lead
>to somewhere productive.

Its no secret who's been paying Doty's wages all these years;
he's a U.S. Government employee.

It goes down two strands with this man. The first, and arguably
least important is, who else other than Bill Moore, is "guilty"
of taking the Doty Shilling? Other Ufologists, four according to
the recent Pratt Papers/MJ12 MUFON presentation, have allegedly
done this for various reasons.

But other than the fact that there might be some finger pointing
and tut tutting, I can't really see that it matters very much.
If I'd been Bill Moore, at that time, and I had some government
agent promising me the golden goose, I'd have sold my own mother
without batting an eyelid to get to the truth.

The real issue with Doty is the potential discovery of the depth
of his work and the possible revelation that the house of bricks
on which our religion rests is actually sitting on a foundation
of straw, as is likely.

What makes it worse though is that although I sit here pointing
a finger at him, the real fault lies with us. At times over the
years, he's either virtually told us what he's been up to or
made glaring mistakes or done or said something that frankly,
only an embecile would believe. So naturally, we've believed
him, because we've wanted to. He is both the Pied Piper of
Ufology and the elephant in the room.

There is no way, in this day and age, that after close to 30
years of meddling in this business, his presence in a UFOlogical
context should be tolerated for even a second. Yet oddly it
still is. He should be avoided like some plague ridden rat, and
yet strangely, he isn't.

So the real issue about Rick Doty plain and simple is, how
stupid we are and how stupid we have been. We have been easy

>Instead of that we have the unedifying spectacle of some the
>best investigative talent in the field wasting its time on turf
>wars and internecine wrangling - all of which may, of course,
>be precisely the aim of the exercise for those whooriginally
>pulled the strings that started the puppets dancing.

The "unedifying spectacle" that you identify does in fact pass
for peer review within UFOlogy. And also, as I've pointed out,
for entertainment for us plebs, so its not to be sniffed at.
Indeed, you've recently indulged yourself, much to the great
amusement of many. What a mouth! All those syllables!


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