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Re: New Revelations On The Origins Of MJ-12

From: Gerald O'Connell <gac.nul>
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:49:47 +0100
Archived: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:11:53 -0400
Subject: Re: New Revelations On The Origins Of MJ-12

>From: Stuart Miller <stuart.4.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:45:32 +0100
>Subject: Re: New Revelations On The Origins Of MJ-12

>>From: Gerald O'Connell <gac.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:24:54 +0100
>>Subject: Re: New Revelations On The Origins Of MJ-12

>>>From: Stuart Miller <stuart.4.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:09:07 +0100
>>>Subject: Re: New Revelations On The Origins Of MJ-12


>>>No one likes to talk
>>>about Doty very much because of where conversations like that
>>>can lead.

>>Really? What a pity. Can you, for the benefit of the ignorant
>>and naive (I have a foot in each camp), elucidate a little

>Certainly, as you ask so nicely.

>>If somebody were to find out who has really been paying Doty's
>>wages all these years, then 'conversations like that' could lead
>>to somewhere productive.

>Its no secret who's been paying Doty's wages all these years;
>he's a U.S. Government employee.

Sorry Stuart, but I believe that we are all aware of that. The
real question is that of to which particular agency (or
agencies) he is ultimately answerable. It seems quite
unbelievable that the public story on this is the real one.

>It goes down two strands with this man. The first, and arguably
>least important is, who else other than Bill Moore, is "guilty"
>of taking the Doty Shilling? Other Ufologists, four according to
>the recent Pratt Papers/MJ12 MUFON presentation, have allegedly
>done this for various reasons.

>But other than the fact that there might be some finger pointing
>and tut tutting, I can't really see that it matters very much.
>If I'd been Bill Moore, at that time, and I had some government
>agent promising me the golden goose, I'd have sold my own mother
>without batting an eyelid to get to the truth.

And in saying exactly that you provide the perfect illustration
of the dangers in failing to remember that: 'when the other side
says "Hey guys! Over Here! Look at all this!" then you nod
politely, make a low-effort show of interest, but actually
direct all your real resources elsewhere.'

I'm glad I'm not your mother, because I just don't see how, at
the time, Bill Moore had any way of distinguishing between 'the
truth' as you tantalisingly put it, and a sucker punch. The
evidence, support and corroboration required for co-operation
and acceptance should never be fixed in inverse proportion to
the sensational magnitude of the story on offer.

>The real issue with Doty is the potential discovery of the depth
>of his work

Exactly. And that depth may be quite shallow if he himself is
the victim of nefarious forces that are manipulating him in
order to create a series of spectacular diversions!

What does Doty get out of it? An extra pay check and the feeling
of being really important, on the inside and in the know. Maybe
if more Ufologists had viewed Doty in this sort of light, it
would have been much harder for him to do the damage he has

Gerald O'Connell

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