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Re: New Revelations On Origins Of MJ-12

From: Paul Kimball <TheRobieShark.nul>
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:09:22 EDT
Archived: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:11:03 -0400
Subject: Re: New Revelations On Origins Of MJ-12

>From: Stan Friedman <fsphys.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:32:11 -0300
>Subject: Re: New Revelations On Origins Of MJ-12

>>From: Paul Kimball <TheRobieShark.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:34:27 EDT
>>Subject: Re: New Revelations On Origins Of MJ-12


>I guess you guys are afraid to say "I don't know" or "it is in
>my Gray basket".


Sorry, but I couldn't resist laughing at what I'm sure was
unintentional, but nonethless hilarious, irony.

You chide Brad and I (and the vast majority of anyone familiar
with MJ-12 who is convinced it's a fraud) for not being willing
to say "I don't know" or "it's in my gray basket" when you
assert with absolute conviction that MJ-12 in the form of the TF
Memo, CT Memo, and EBD, is authentic.


Here's an offer for you. I will happily admit that I can't state
with absolute certainty that those documents are frauds, if you
will state that you can't show they're real, and stick them back
in your gray basket from whence you pulled them years ago.


>You claim you know what is in the full briefing and what should
>be in the prelim.

>You have no basis at all for these claims.

Yes, we do - it's called logic. With respect, it's the one thing
that has been sorely lacking from your analysis of MJ-12 over
the years.

>No, I haven't done much digging in to Del Rio or any at all as
>to why the Plains isn't mentioned. I could intuit with my Ouija
>Board that the retrieval of an almost intact saucer with no
>publicity would be more classified than one which had, briefly,
>loads of headlines, and was clearly in pieces.

It wouldn't require a Ouija board - it simply requires you to
accept logical conclusions drawn from the evidence at hand.

As for not digging into Del Rio, that alone shows that your
investigation of MJ-12 has been flawed for 20 years now.

The fact that you never mention Del Rio shows that you know this
to be true, but prefer not to let your audiences in on the

What's that rule of yours re: debunkers:

"What people don't know, I'm not going to tell them"

What's applicable to the debunking goose is equally applicable
to the believer gander, Stan.


>I could claim to have been privy to conversations between
>Hillenkoetter and W.B. Smith about the Briefing...

I wonder if Smith ran those conversations by his imaginary pal
AFFA - another fact I never hear you mention.

>I will let you guys fill that in with your super and very
>selective powers while I am off to West Virginia and


Ditto. I'm sure there will be folks in WV and Penn State who
won't bother you with the tough questions that you still haven't
answered here.

Best regards,


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