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Re: Bob Shell Was A 'Marked' Man?

From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:49:24 +0000
Archived: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:04:56 -0400
Subject: Re: Bob Shell Was A 'Marked' Man?

>From: William Sawers <ufsyntax.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 08:01:12 +1000
>Subject: Re: Bob Shell Was A 'Marked' Man?

>>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:30:10 +0000
>>Subject: Re: Bob Shell Was A 'Marked' Man?

>>>From: William Sawers <ufsyntax.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:04:39 +1000
>>>Subject: Bob Shell Was A 'Marked' Man?

>>>I don't know how much credence we can put to this but small
>>>communities can have long memories. I received the following

>>>"This is a terribly sad affair and more so since they targeted
>>>Bob in a vendetta for previously blowing the whistle on a
>>>company that was polluting their local rivers.

>>>When the EPA came down on the company, they left town and 350
>>>people lost their jobs. Ever since then, Bob Shell has been a
>>>'marked man'.

>>Oh please! Don't mystify what most likely is a very simple and
>>explainable event unless you can provide strong and credible
>>evidence to the contrary. This sort of anonymous gossip doesn't
>>hack it.


>I inadvertently left Bob Morningstar's name out of the post when
>I copied it.

>Greg Boone respectfully didn't pass judgment when he, I imagine
>got the same information Dick.

Information? Or Gossip? Or outright speculation?

All I said (and I will repeat it as many times as necessary no
matter how many times my view is misunderstood or garbled by
others) is that when this sort of undocuneted story starts being
tossed around, you need to have some credible evidence before it
is meaningful. Obviously, Shell was convicted by a judge and
jury. My immrediate reaction was that it was a sad and tragic
state of affairs.

Note how this environmental scenario is in complete
contradiction to the scenario, based on what he was told
directly by Bob Shell, that Greg Sandow just posted. Note also
how carefully Greg phrased it as merely something that ought to
be known, not as proof of anything one way or the other.

>"Let me hold the bus here. Bob Morningstar straightened me out
>on something.

>So I respectfully retract what I've posted. We'll see what the
>appellate stage does."

>I understand you and Bob had differences of opinion but (with
>reservations) I'm still willing to offer him the benefit of the

Some people on this List seem intent on painting me as a
heartless villain with no sympathy for others at all, and not
willing to have some doubts about miscarriages of justice. These
people do not know me. As Greg pointed out, miscarriages do
occur and one must always be mindful of that. However (once
again), no one has the right to assume without some credible
evidence that Bob Shell was railroaded.

And to suggest that my remarks were based on personal
differences with Bob is both unfair and absurd. I disagree with
many people on this list; I don't wish them ill. To grant
someone the "benefit of the doubt" (once again) you need to have
some credible evidence that he deserves it. Two semi-plausible
but opposing scenarios have now been suggested. Where do we go
from there?

If someone has any real evidence of malicious prosecution, I
suggest they try to interest an investigative reporter in it.
Questionable gossip and insinuations lead only to conspiratorial
thinking without any basis in fact.

- Dick (aka Darth Hall)

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