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Re: Bob Shell Was A 'Marked' Man?

From: Greg Boone <Evolbaby.nul>
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 19:09:22 EDT
Archived: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 09:21:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Bob Shell Was A 'Marked' Man?


>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:49:24 +0000
>Subject: Re: Bob Shell Was A 'Marked' Man?

>>From: William Sawers <ufsyntax.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 08:01:12 +1000
>>Subject: Re: Bob Shell Was A 'Marked' Man?

>>>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:30:10 +0000
>>>Subject: Re: Bob Shell Was A 'Marked' Man?

>>>>From: William Sawers <ufsyntax.nul>
>>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>>Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:04:39 +1000
>>>>Subject: Bob Shell Was A 'Marked' Man?

>>>>I don't know how much credence we can put to this but small
>>>>communities can have long memories. I received the following
>>>>yesterday:

>>>>"This is a terribly sad affair and more so since they targeted
>>>>Bob in a vendetta for previously blowing the whistle on a
>>>>company that was polluting their local rivers.

>>>>When the EPA came down on the company, they left town and 350
>>>>people lost their jobs. Ever since then, Bob Shell has been a
>>>>'marked man'.

>>>Oh please! Don't mystify what most likely is a very simple and
>>>explainable event unless you can provide strong and credible
>>>evidence to the contrary. This sort of anonymous gossip doesn't
>>>hack it.

>>Dick

>>I inadvertently left Bob Morningstar's name out of the post when
>>I copied it.

>>Greg Boone respectfully didn't pass judgment when he, I imagine
>>got the same information Dick.

>Information? Or Gossip? Or outright speculation?

>All I said (and I will repeat it as many times as necessary no
>matter how many times my view is misunderstood or garbled by
>others) is that when this sort of undocuneted story starts being
>tossed around, you need to have some credible evidence before it
>is meaningful. Obviously, Shell was convicted by a judge and
>jury. My immrediate reaction was that it was a sad and tragic
>state of affairs.

>Note how this environmental scenario is in complete
>contradiction to the scenario, based on what he was told
>directly by Bob Shell, that Greg Sandow just posted. Note also
>how carefully Greg phrased it as merely something that ought to
>be known, not as proof of anything one way or the other.

>>"Let me hold the bus here. Bob Morningstar straightened me out
>>on something.

>>So I respectfully retract what I've posted. We'll see what the
>>appellate stage does."

>>I understand you and Bob had differences of opinion but (with
>>reservations) I'm still willing to offer him the benefit of the
>>doubt...

>Some people on this List seem intent on painting me as a
>heartless villain with no sympathy for others at all, and not
>willing to have some doubts about miscarriages of justice. These
>people do not know me. As Greg pointed out, miscarriages do
>occur and one must always be mindful of that. However (once
>again), no one has the right to assume without some credible
>evidence that Bob Shell was railroaded.

>And to suggest that my remarks were based on personal
>differences with Bob is both unfair and absurd. I disagree with
>many people on this list; I don't wish them ill. To grant
>someone the "benefit of the doubt" (once again) you need to have
>some credible evidence that he deserves it. Two semi-plausible
>but opposing scenarios have now been suggested. Where do we go
>from there?

>If someone has any real evidence of malicious prosecution, I
>suggest they try to interest an investigative reporter in it.
>Questionable gossip and insinuations lead only to conspiratorial
>thinking without any basis in fact.


>- Dick (aka Darth Hall)

Mr. Hall, I don't know what happened but the following quote got
attributed to me:

>>I understand you and Bob had differences of opinion but (with
>>reservations) I'm still willing to offer him the benefit of the
>>doubt...

Mayhaps an e-mailing error.

However, this issue of Bob Shell I've been told by press pals
may hit the tabloid news big time. Reason why is it has all the
makings of a hot movie. Sex, drugs, rock n roll, aliens, UFOs.
You couldn't have made this stuff up better. Reporters
investigate and also take notes for possible film deals. We've
seen these knockoffs frequently either in the silver screen or
the tv style version.

Will the skeptibunkers use it to label all ufologists,
experiencers etc. I doubt it because we're so diverse, however
there are some who will.

If a feature film or book occurs and if, I say _if_, there is
credible evidence that Shell was railroaded or if the court
system fell short, there are other reporters who'll jump on
that.

These types of stories and events have a tendency to drag on and
on. If Shell had been black and the victim white, you could bet
the Monday lunch money it would be all over the news. Vice versa,
I'd add.

Our best bet is to be patient and keep on keeping on in studying
the UFO phenomena.


Best,

Greg




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