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Re: 'All The News That's Fit To Print'

From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:33:24 +0000
Archived: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:16:33 -0400
Subject: Re: 'All The News That's Fit To Print'

>From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 19:38:09 EDT
>Subject: Re: 'All The News That's Fit To Print'

>>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 14:59:19 +0000
>>Subject: Re: 'All The News That's Fit To Print'

>>>From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 20:08:38 EDT
>>>Subject: Re: 'All The News That's Fit To Print'

>>>In subsequent posts here I pointed out that Doty for one told
>>>Linda Howe he was coming to her instead of the NY Times because
>>>she is "much easier to control" - this coming from a
>>>disinformation agent only pretending to be a leaker. At least
>>>he recognized the difference between reputable media with clout
>>>that a legitimate leaker should turn to, and a marginalized,
>>>fringe media outlet.

>>>My point was not that the NY Times was the only reputable outlet
>>>a genuine leaker should go to. But the NY Times did in fact
>>>cover the MJ-12 document controversy quite fairly and
>>>prominently. In later postings I also pointed out that the Wash
>>>Post has had interested reporters, and that for many years Billy
>>>Cox was at Florida Today and got considerable national coverage
>>>for his UFO stories, many of which dealt with government UFO


>>You live in California, I believe? I live in Maryland just
>>outside the D.C. line. I have read the Washington Post every day
>>for decades, and can't recall the last time that the Post had
>>"interested reporters". Unless you mean those reporters who
>>occasionally cover UFO meetings or conferences and always treat
>>them as a joke (like Joel Achenbach), typically in the Style
>>section though on rare occasions something makes the news

>>For many years the Fund for UFO Research has attempted to get
>>serious press attention to UFOs, with very little if any
>>success. As I recall, the French Cometa report received brief,
>>neutral coverage obviously because it was quasi-official. The
>>Post, it is fair to say, is completely hostile to the UFO
>>subject. Greg says about the reception a whistleblower
>>would receive is exactly right.

>Dick and List,

>What is nice about Google News Archive is that you can check out
>all sorts of sources online that were once out of reach. A
>simple query for all stories in the Washington Post on flying
>saucers or UFO's from 1947 to date yielded the following results
>(actually multiple queries to avoid double counting in the

>Approximately 1,192 articles in Wash Post on flying saucers or
>UFO's from 1947 to 2007, divided chronologically as follows
>(adds up to more than 1,192 because there were about 173
>duplicates I couldn't easily pinpoint and exclude, and maybe
>more duplicates for the most recent years because of multiple
>news archive sources reporting the same articles):

>1947-49  -   10
>1950's   -   60
>1960's   -   57
>1970's   -   66
>1980's   -  157
>1990's   -  501
>2000-7   -  514

>It looks like a major increase in UFO coverage in the Washington
>Post even accounting for a few stories about rock bands, etc.

>Here are some sample Wash Post UFO stories from the 2000's
>(without a subscription to a collective newspaper archive
>service I can't get the whole articles but Google gives the
>first few lines and/or the lines containing the search words).

>As you'll note the very first article indexed by 'relevancy'
>happens to be very relevant to our discussion about whether
>legitimate UFO leakers would or should go to major reputable
>media such as the Wash Post.

>It is a FOIA lawsuit filed by Citizens Against UFO Secrecy
>(CAUS) covered in the Wash Post!

>Another story gives serious coverage to CUFOS.

No it doesn't!

>See below.


>'X-Files' Case Lands in Va.; Gilmore Sued Over UFO 'Invasi...
>Washington Post - Jun 22, 2000
>civilian said he has been involved in "The politics of UFO
>research" ... Washington Office of Citizens against UFO Secrecy,
>a public interest ...

>A UFO Guru Light-Years Away From Carl Sagan
>Washington Post - Jul 13, 2000
>Joe Firmage, A Silicon Valley millionaire who became A
>highbrow UFO Guru after He was visited in his bedroom by
>"A remarkable being clothed in brilliant ...

>A Tale of UFOs and Alien Abduction
>Washington Post - Dec 1, 2002
>The action also centers on Roswell, NM, where, legend has It, A
>UFO crashed in 1947. in fact, "Taken's" storyline is based
>primarily on legends that have ...

>The Man Who Has the Fringe Tied Up in Knots
>Washington Post - Jan 17, 2003
>But he Has never seen a UFO and never met an extraterrestrial.
>... "There are a lot of groups on The fringes of The UFO
>community Who are nothing But ...

>Jennings Explores ABCs of UFOs
>Washington Post - Feb 20, 2005
>The UFO phenomenon from an early milestone: a 1947 sighting by a
>man named ... Segments include visits to The Center for UFO
>Studies outside Chicago, ... Executive producer Tom Yellin said
>the UFO field is "a risky thing to report ...

>Bush Plans to Boost Anti-Terrorism Funding; President Urges Congress...
>Washington Post - Jan 23, 2004
>Bush's visit to this small, heavily Republican city in
>southeastern New Mexico known primarily as a site of purported
>UFO landings follows similar ...

>COAST TO COAST; A national briefing of people, issues and events...
>Washington Post - May 11, 2003
>You know that crazy great-uncle who tells You tales about the
>UFO that crashed more than 50 years ago In New Mexico? Don't
>write him off too quickly -- he's ...


Thanks for reinforcing my point about your definition of
"interested reporter". Five out of the seven story headlines and
brief summaries are examples of just what I was talking about:
the Washington Post treating UFOs as a total joke.  Once in a
while they report fairly neutrally on some event like the Peter
Jennings program. Bottom line: leakers would have a very hard
time convincing anyone at the Post of any alleged important
inside information.

 - Dick

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